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Intelligent Design, Proof IV
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 5, 2013 at 7:15 am
All of these threads don't prove ID... They prove the OP's ignorance more than sufficiently Facepalm
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 6, 2013 at 7:49 am
(June 5, 2013 at 7:15 am)LastPoet Wrote: All of these threads don't prove ID... They prove the OP's ignorance more than sufficiently Facepalm

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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 6, 2013 at 1:55 pm
How birds lost their peinis.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22803344

Quote:Dr Cohn commented: "Genitalia are affected by birth defects more than almost any other organ.

"Dissecting the molecular basis of the naturally occurring variation generated by evolution can lead to discoveries of new mechanisms of embryonic development, some of which are totally unexpected.

"This allows us to not only understand how evolution works but also gain new insights into possible causes of malformations."



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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 6, 2013 at 2:48 pm
(June 5, 2013 at 1:59 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Changes happen not evolution!

I'd just like to say thank you for giving me the absolute best laugh I've had all day. If Muslim comedians are a thing, I think you may have just found your calling!

(Muslim scholar is an ironic oxymoron, right?)
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 6, 2013 at 3:24 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 3:20 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:
(May 28, 2013 at 3:07 am)Ryantology Wrote: Are accidents and coincidences impossible?
In this case, YES
It will be circular logic for the first cell to come by a coincidence
As the minimum system required must pre exist and coordinate before existence.

Have you considered that a cell is not the minimum system required? A self-replicating molecule would be the logical minimum for something that could lead to a cell through natural selection; making the formation of the first cell the result of molecules evolving (in a pre-biological sense) to replicate more successfully rather than something so complex as a cell happening to come together spontaneously with no process guided by natural selection leading up to it.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 9, 2013 at 6:32 am (This post was last modified: June 9, 2013 at 6:36 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(June 6, 2013 at 3:24 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Have you considered that a cell is not the minimum system required? A self-replicating molecule would be the logical minimum for something that could lead to a cell through natural selection; making the formation of the first cell the result of molecules evolving (in a pre-biological sense) to replicate more successfully rather than something so complex as a cell happening to come together spontaneously with no process guided by natural selection leading up to it.
What you say is impossible
as there is no such thing a self replicating molecule

Anyway whatever you call it, must have minimum functions to be able to live (then ultimately evolve)
(June 6, 2013 at 2:48 pm)Jaysyn Wrote:
(June 5, 2013 at 1:59 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Changes happen not evolution!

I'd just like to say thank you for giving me the absolute best laugh I've had all day.
In your terms it means that evolution happen horizontally (within the same species) not vertically to generate new ones.
(June 5, 2013 at 7:07 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Please explain the human birth. The Sperm and Egg are a few cells combine, which grows/evolves into a full size uneducated retard via genetics.
This by itself is miracle of God!
How evolution can work on parallel basis to design the male female compatibility.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 9, 2013 at 6:37 am
(June 9, 2013 at 6:32 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: What you say is impossible
as there is no such thing a self replicating molecule

Really? then what is DNA or virus's?

You display your total ignorance of basic biology yet again and expect us to take your views seriously.

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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 9, 2013 at 6:39 am (This post was last modified: June 9, 2013 at 6:44 am by Dragonetti.)
http://news.discovery.com/tech/biotechno...111014.htm

So, a miracle created Humans? So, your mom and dad having sex did not create you via sperm and egg?

Well I hate to be the barer of bad news, you came from a few cells into a full grown retard! Obviously, you are lacking the science and logical education to know that. How does it relate? Well, technically, growing from a few cells to a human is evolving.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 9, 2013 at 7:03 am
(June 9, 2013 at 6:32 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: What you say is impossible
as there is no such thing a self replicating molecule
god: Oh, to be represented by such numbskulls.... Facepalm


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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof IV
June 9, 2013 at 7:10 am
(June 9, 2013 at 6:37 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(June 9, 2013 at 6:32 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: What you say is impossible
as there is no such thing a self replicating molecule

Really? then what is DNA or virus's?
A Virus is not a single molecule
A DNA is not able to live by itself

I think you need to educate yourself before posting non-sense.
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