You don't present logic Secularone you preach. There's nothing to chew at. As for your self professed genius I guess we'll just have to take your word for it.
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Some Folks Just Can't Believe
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe  (September 13, 2009 at 11:44 am)Secularone Wrote: I'm still trying to find one Christian on this forum who can post an intelligent argument. So, far the best arguments I've seen are those of Arcanus. They are not intelligent, but they demonstrate that the person behind them is very much so and highly skilled in debate. Despite the fact that they may be loaded with sophistry and apologetics, at least he's actually offering an interesting exchange. And he's so well acquainted with the apologetics and so skilled at sophistry most of the atheists on this forum don't stand a chance debating him. I can see that much already. He's very clever and he's done his homework. He'll be a tough nut to crack. It would be arrogant and stupid of me to think that he's easy pickin's. He and I both know that there is an apologetic answer and a multitude of sophist tricks suited to meet the needs of any and every challenge. What the hell is this? A logical hunting party? Are you and Arcanus sniffing each other's asses? (September 13, 2009 at 11:44 am)Secularone Wrote: As for you fr0d0, I have yet to observed a single good argument from you with anyone, sophist or otherwise. So trying to have a an intelligent conversation with you at this point is simply a no go. You seem to be clueless when it comes to Christian apologetics so you do not employ much of that. Your tactic is to be as illusive, vague, general, non committal as you can. And if someone corners you, you simply dismiss them. This, however, is very true. He's been that way since the beginning.
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I wouldn't say "only chance"
 I was only allowed to chose three of my stronger arguments against specifically the Christian god... chosen from a flowing river of contradictions that is the the god of the Bible.  Arcanus has had many good points against common misconceptions... The question is wether his points will be as strong against uncommon points that i've yet to hear another person speak (though they might, i wouldn't know )My intention is not to expose "him and his unscrupulous sophistry", but to learn from him, and for him to learn from me. This is much better than trying to discuss or debate the nature of the Christian deity with mimicking parrots Arcanus is much more intelligent, researches what he is interested in, and seems to make his own unique points.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Some Folks Just Can't Believe
September 14, 2009 at 5:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2009 at 5:53 pm by fr0d0.)
What utter nonsense Eilonnwy. However I expect no better - what with your never complete defenses of your points.
@ Sae: I think the first point is a common question, the second and third mildly so. I think Secularone thinks too much of himself. His points are totally unoriginal and show no signs of intelligence whatsoever. He is like the white noise of denial.
I know the first one is common, and it is common for a good reason
It is one of the better arguments against omnipotence... There are other ones for other "Omni-____"... and if you'll note my sig... (Oh wow, i forgot to separate that one >_<, fixing ^_^) Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Easily defeated I think. Although I look forward to the clarity Arcanus chooses to deal with it.
What in your sig??
Very interesting things of course
For every choice in eight... but once am I a philosopher... but twice am I a criminal. There are five more choices where I am an artist, a businesswoman, a scientist, and more. With such a vibrant reflection... I can be no single shade. Never can I be alone Vice, nor alone Virtue, nor alone anything else... so long as have I a reflection. (Eg, the Vice is only pure as an idea... it cannot exist by itself outside of thought.) And the last one follows. I gtg now.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
*puts on bullshit goggles* Ah yeah - I see
LOL
Perhaps the logic is not clear to you... because you have not thought about it
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
"The goggles, they do nothing!"
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