Yet another Catholic abuse scandal...

[Godscreated]

This is a very difficult situation, like Drich said they believe it's sinful. Would it solve the problem, for some yes, for most IMO no, pedophiles are mentally devoid of right and wrong. Yes I believe they are pedophiles and should be punished as such, and it has happened so much that I believe some of these men may have had abusing boys on their minds when they became priest. The Catholic Church brought this on itself by telling the priest they could not be married, when scriptures do not teach this. hopefully the Catholic Church well allow married men to be priest so this awful evil will be limited, they should do it for the children's sake.

You are a true pro at self-contradiction.

Allowing priests to be married won't solve the problem but you hope the church will allow priests to marry to solve the problem.

Good thinking, GC. You tool.

Are you blind or plain ole dumb, do I need to explain the word limited for you, if so I can do it slowly so you want get lost, as a matter of fact we can go at this explanation one word at a time if it will help. I'm showing a genuine concern for these children and that's the best you can do, you may be a lost cause.

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GC said the problem is pedophiles. If this is indeed the case, marriage is not a solution at all. So if the church allows priests to be married, all you end up with is some married priests. The pedophiles remain, and are still the problem.

So, yes, it is a contradiction to say the lack of marriage is the problem but the lack of marriage is not the problem.

Ok Baalb and cato123, listen up, the pedophiles would not be married period, there's nothing in a marriage they want, and yes these people need to be put to death so society doesn't have to keep their sorry butts up or risk them being freed. I brought the marriage thing up for one reason, now try and read this slowly so you will understand. The more married priest there are in the church the less pedophiles can get in the church to harm the children, thus limiting the harm that can be done and the more watchmen (married priest) there will be to protect them, especially is the married priest are overseeing the children. I'm not trying to be mean here, it's that you did not take time to see the difference married priest would make, it seemed to me all you wanted to do is criticize.

[Ryantology]

Ok Baalb and cato123, listen up, the pedophiles would not be married period, there's nothing in a marriage they want, and yes these people need to be put to death so society doesn't have to keep their sorry butts up or risk them being freed. I brought the marriage thing up for one reason, now try and read this slowly so you will understand. The more married priest there are in the church the less pedophiles can get in the church to harm the children, thus limiting the harm that can be done and the more watchmen (married priest) there will be to protect them, especially is the married priest are overseeing the children. I'm not trying to be mean here, it's that you did not take time to see the difference married priest would make, it seemed to me all you wanted to do is criticize.

What they are saying is that a priest who is a pedophile will continue to be a pedophile regardless. Marriage will not stop them any more than priesthood does. In fact, it may even give them a new source of cover, as there will be people who will incorrectly assume that a marriage would prevent a priest from diddling altar boys.

The only action which can really help, short of extreme measures such as I half-jokingly offered, is for the church to actually give a fuck about the problem by closely monitoring their priests, starting inquiries when accusations are made, defrocking those who are guilty, and letting the law deal with them.

[Esquilax]

Ok Baalb and cato123, listen up, the pedophiles would not be married period, there's nothing in a marriage they want, and yes these people need to be put to death so society doesn't have to keep their sorry butts up or risk them being freed. I brought the marriage thing up for one reason, now try and read this slowly so you will understand. The more married priest there are in the church the less pedophiles can get in the church to harm the children, thus limiting the harm that can be done and the more watchmen (married priest) there will be to protect them, especially is the married priest are overseeing the children. I'm not trying to be mean here, it's that you did not take time to see the difference married priest would make, it seemed to me all you wanted to do is criticize.

Your logic kind of falls apart when you factor in the observed, demonstrable fact that those "watchmen" priests that didn't molest children, generally speaking, either kept silent or aided in covering up the crimes of the pedophiles. I mean, hell, it took a public inquiry to get the archbishop to even admit that it was happening.

[Godscreated]

Ok Baalb and cato123, listen up, the pedophiles would not be married period, there's nothing in a marriage they want, and yes these people need to be put to death so society doesn't have to keep their sorry butts up or risk them being freed. I brought the marriage thing up for one reason, now try and read this slowly so you will understand. The more married priest there are in the church the less pedophiles can get in the church to harm the children, thus limiting the harm that can be done and the more watchmen (married priest) there will be to protect them, especially is the married priest are overseeing the children. I'm not trying to be mean here, it's that you did not take time to see the difference married priest would make, it seemed to me all you wanted to do is criticize.

What they are saying is that a priest who is a pedophile will continue to be a pedophile regardless. Marriage will not stop them any more than priesthood does. In fact, it may even give them a new source of cover, as there will be people who will incorrectly assume that a marriage would prevent a priest from diddling altar boys.

The only action which can really help, short of extreme measures such as I half-jokingly offered, is for the church to actually give a fuck about the problem by closely monitoring their priests, starting inquiries when accusations are made, defrocking those who are guilty, and letting the law deal with them.

Christianity is also a life of trust, at least till someone shows us different. Monitoring those priest that are not involved in such evil would go against trust, I do agree the church needs to be more aggressive in rooting out priest that commit such evil. They should bring things to light and see these priest are brought to trial and done away with.
Pedophiles care nothing about being married, at least most do not and like I said more eyes on a problem the sooner it is remedied. Married priest could provide those eyes, one thing I know God will deal with these evil priest and those who covered it up. Evil will be with us till the end of time and we as responsible humans need to fight against it, evil is a problem that effect all and we as a society need to be ware of it and deal with it.

[Ryantology]

You'd think a God concerned with justice and righteousness would prevent his own mouthpieces from doing things like this. Even if they're punished in the afterlife, what good does that do the victims?

[Godscreated]

You'd think a God concerned with justice and righteousness would prevent his own mouthpieces from doing things like this. Even if they're punished in the afterlife, what good does that do the victims?

Those are the kind of questions I wish I knew, sometimes life doesn't make sense and doesn't seem fair, that's why I trust God, through my life experiences I have experienced God many times. I'm not the type of person who takes what everyone tells me about God at face value, I will search out what doesn't seem to make sense and even question God about certain things in His word. Don't misunderstand I trust God completely and there are those who I trust greatly and seldom doubt what they say. I'm the same with Christians in my church and those who are around me as I am here, if they say something I know to be wrong I will set them straight. No one hates to see God misrepresented worse than I do, no matter who it is.
They are not His mouth piece and I want go into what I believe about them, that's for another day.

[NoraBrimstone]

Yeah, the Catholic Church is basically a massive paedophile ring. I get it.

Now what are we going to do about it?

[Cato]

Ok Baalb and cato123, listen up, the pedophiles would not be married period, there's nothing in a marriage they want, and yes these people need to be put to death so society doesn't have to keep their sorry butts up or risk them being freed. I brought the marriage thing up for one reason, now try and read this slowly so you will understand. The more married priest there are in the church the less pedophiles can get in the church to harm the children, thus limiting the harm that can be done and the more watchmen (married priest) there will be to protect them, especially is the married priest are overseeing the children. I'm not trying to be mean here, it's that you did not take time to see the difference married priest would make, it seemed to me all you wanted to do is criticize.

Unbelievable. You still don't get it and dive into absurdity by claiming that marriage will eliminate (or even lessen) the sexual abuse of children.

Child molestation is not a celibacy issue and it is not a religious issue; it is a sexaul deviant issue. The reason the Catholic church is getting rightfully bashed is because of the size of the institution and the evidence supporting the intentional cover-up of alleged abuse.

From the Insurance Journal:

The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/nat.../80877.htm

[Baalzebutt]

Christianity is also a life of trust, at least till someone shows us different. Monitoring those priest that are not involved in such evil would go against trust, I do agree the church needs to be more aggressive in rooting out priest that commit such evil. They should bring things to light and see these priest are brought to trial and done away with.
Pedophiles care nothing about being married, at least most do not and like I said more eyes on a problem the sooner it is remedied. Married priest could provide those eyes, one thing I know God will deal with these evil priest and those who covered it up. Evil will be with us till the end of time and we as responsible humans need to fight against it, evil is a problem that effect all and we as a society need to be ware of it and deal with it.

You aren't actually stupid enough to believe this, are you? If so, you need to do some more research on pedophilia.

I would go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of pedophiles do, in fact, get married and have children of their own. I would also say that most are interested in sex with both children AND adults. If you think those who abuse children are those who are strictly interested in sex with children, you are badly deluded. Further, I will personally guarantee that you know someone who is a pedophile. You probably don't know it, and you will probably never find out. Pedophilia is as common and widespread as homosexuality and is found in every race, color, and creed as well as every financial, marital and social class.

Marriage will do nothing to quell the problems within your precious church. The problem with your church is your church. It is an institution that holds itself above the law. No institution is above the law.

[Godscreated]

Christianity is also a life of trust, at least till someone shows us different. Monitoring those priest that are not involved in such evil would go against trust, I do agree the church needs to be more aggressive in rooting out priest that commit such evil. They should bring things to light and see these priest are brought to trial and done away with.
Pedophiles care nothing about being married, at least most do not and like I said more eyes on a problem the sooner it is remedied. Married priest could provide those eyes, one thing I know God will deal with these evil priest and those who covered it up. Evil will be with us till the end of time and we as responsible humans need to fight against it, evil is a problem that effect all and we as a society need to be ware of it and deal with it.

You aren't actually stupid enough to believe this, are you? If so, you need to do some more research on pedophilia.

I would go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of pedophiles do, in fact, get married and have children of their own. I would also say that most are interested in sex with both children AND adults. If you think those who abuse children are those who are strictly interested in sex with children, you are badly deluded. Further, I will personally guarantee that you know someone who is a pedophile. You probably don't know it, and you will probably never find out. Pedophilia is as common and widespread as homosexuality and is found in every race, color, and creed as well as every financial, marital and social class.

Marriage will do nothing to quell the problems within your precious church. The problem with your church is your church. It is an institution that holds itself above the law. No institution is above the law.

Hey stupid read what I say not what you desire I say, I'm not Catholic.