Posts: 67288
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 12:56 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Then it remains a non sequitur - In other words...you responded by way of empty gibberish. I don't think you're a literalist, I think your a gibberer.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 6946
Threads: 26
Joined: April 28, 2012
Reputation:
83
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm
(June 3, 2013 at 12:44 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If that were the case (which it isn't), and if it actually happened(which it didn't), it would have failed in that regard(which it does). It offers no such proof.
I does if you were one of the 5000 who saw and ate what was produced.
No miracle here.
"Little fucking people; big fuck all fish" - Jim Jefferies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXxF-1ZMAU
Posts: 14259
Threads: 48
Joined: March 1, 2009
Reputation:
80
Re: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm
We travel different roads Rhythm, where neither of us is prepared to change sides. We both regard the others position as gibberish.
Posts: 67288
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 1:08 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The difference being that I can explain -precisely why- any given bit of gibberish is precisely that. It doesn't matter which road one decides to take, a non seq is a non seq. Get your shit together man.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 14259
Threads: 48
Joined: March 1, 2009
Reputation:
80
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Ditto. In your mind it's justified. Try not to massage your ego too much there ;)
Posts: 67288
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You could always explain to me how I managed to miss the coherence involved in spouting out non sequiturs Frodo. Or how my ego is a factor.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 13392
Threads: 187
Joined: March 18, 2012
Reputation:
48
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 1:39 pm
(June 3, 2013 at 12:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, Drich, it doesn't- even if it happened and you witnessed it. The best it can do is demonstrate that there is some means available to materialize or otherwise produce large amounts of food. That's the tip top - of what a factual happening of this mythical tale - has to offer. As usual, no god involved, or required.
Your not taking in the time period, or you simply do not understand this very simple statement.
The feeding of the 5000 was not a matter of charity. It was to proove TO THOSE PEOPLE That HE/Jesus Possed the Power and Authority of God.
Posts: 67288
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2013 at 1:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Which it would have failed horribly to do - had it been anything other than a fairy tale, because the conclusion you hope to reach doesn't follow.
Understand?
In the most exhaustive of readings the feeding of the multitudes is a (very clever) narrative device, why do I care more about your ghost stories than you do? You seem to be inordinately preoccupied with power and authority, why is that?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 6851
Threads: 76
Joined: October 17, 2012
Reputation:
31
RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 2:01 pm
(June 3, 2013 at 12:02 pm)Rationalman Wrote: This is part of the research. And it doesn't matter where any argument comes from so long as it's relevant. This is a cogent argument, there are no lies here. It is very true that Christians choose to follow the nice parts of the bible but ignore bad things such as slavery: who you can own, how you should treat them, how much you can buy and sell them for. The bible tells you these things yet you don't see Christians with slaves, this means that they have ignored this. It's crappy research and/or reasoning. While the Bible regulates slavery, it does not mandate slavery, and it tells Christians to obey the secular authorities. So, the fact that you don't see Christians with slaves in no way means Christians are ignoring the Bible.
Posts: 14259
Threads: 48
Joined: March 1, 2009
Reputation:
80
Re: RE: Christianity and morals
June 3, 2013 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm by fr0d0.)
(June 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You could always explain to me how I managed to miss the coherence involved in spouting out non sequiturs Frodo. Or how my ego is a factor.
I could. But I see little to be gained from one more ride on that particular merry go round. To me, you are simply stubborn. I've seen you blank logic. I'm not interested in giving you the credence of entertaining your particular insanity.
|
