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Obama Hates Medical Marijuana And He Doesn't Care What The States Think
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RE: Obama Hates Medical Marijuana And He Doesn't Care What The States Think
It doesn't really surprise me that Obama is so terrible when it comes to this issue. He's all about federal power and never been a states rights guys. He's also been openly opposed to marijuana use in any form from the start of his presidency.
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(June 27, 2013 at 9:51 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: It doesn't really surprise me that Obama is so terrible when it comes to this issue. He's all about federal power and never been a states rights guys. He's also been openly opposed to marijuana use in any form from the start of his presidency.

Holders of political office generally don't act to restrain the powers of that office. Powers of an office usually have to be taken away by forces outside of it.

From all of history, I know of only one exception to this above rule. George Washington had his faults, but he did get our democracy off to a good start by using the powers of the President with restraint and establishing the precedent of only-two-terms.
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I wouldn't go as far as all drugs should be legalized. They should all be decriminalized, yes. Legalizing marijuana and ecstasy likely not too big a deal, but for other more dangerous drugs, decriminalization should be sufficient. I mean there are plenty of prescription medication you won't be able to get over the counter right now because the risk of taking it by mistake outweighs the benefit, legalizing means allowing recreational drugs to be marketed and sold commercially like alcohol and cigarettes. That's not such a good idea until it's shown that the harm isn't significant.

Should clarify that ecstasy does cause some brain damage (not like something bashed into your head) but has been shown to cause cell death if i'm not mistaken. Although not as much as the fake study showed.
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(June 27, 2013 at 10:03 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: From all of history, I know of only one exception to this above rule. George Washington had his faults, but he did get our democracy off to a good start by using the powers of the President with restraint and establishing the precedent of only-two-terms.

The 22nd Amendment was ratified in 1951 which limits the president to two terms. Unless you're saying that Washington proposed the idea, but it didn't take hold until long after he was dead.
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(June 27, 2013 at 11:17 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: The 22nd Amendment was ratified in 1951 which limits the president to two terms. Unless you're saying that Washington proposed the idea, but it didn't take hold until long after he was dead.

It was sort of an unwritten rule until FDR came along.
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(June 27, 2013 at 11:17 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: The 22nd Amendment was ratified in 1951 which limits the president to two terms. Unless you're saying that Washington proposed the idea, but it didn't take hold until long after he was dead.

It was by action that he established the precedent. To the best of my knowledge, it became a tradition that only FDR broke, and that was due to the economic crisis followed by WWII.

The tradition was a powerful one in the American psyche even without a formal amendment. Anyone seeking to break that rule faced the "oh, so you think you're better than Washington, huh?" factor. Teddy Roosevelt ran for a third term unsuccessfully and suffered an attempted assassination by a "no-more-than-two-terms" fanatic.

Washington also sought to restrain the powers of his office in other ways. He would only veto a bill if he could argue it was unconstitutional. Part of the outrage against later President Jackson is that he was AFAIK the first president to veto bills just because he wanted to. He was called by some "king Jackson" and depicted in cartoons as ruling with a scepter in the shape of a veto letter.

Those more versed in American history can correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. It's what I remember from my high school days.
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george washington was the 1st president............ to smoke weed

RANDOM SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT HEMP:

*Industrial hemp and marijuana are both classified by taxonomists as Cannabis sativa, a species with hundreds of varieties. C. sativa is a member of the mulberry family. Industrial hemp is bred to maximize fiber, seed and/or oil, while marijuana varieties seek to maximize THC (delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the primary psychoactive ingredient in marijuana).

*While industrial hemp and marijuana may look somewhat alike to an untrained eye, an easily trained eye can easily distinguish the difference.

*Industrial hemp has a THC content of between 0.05 and 1%. Marijuana has a THC content of 3% to 20%. To receive a standard psychoactive dose would require a person to power-smoke 10-12 hemp cigarettes over an extremely short period of time. The large volume and high temperature of vapor, gas and smoke would be almost impossible for a person to withstand.

*If hemp does pollinate any nearby marijuana, genetically, the result will always be lower-THC marijuana, not higher-THC hemp. If hemp is grown outdoors, marijuana will not be grown close by to avoid producing lower-grade marijuana.

*Hemp fibers are longer, stronger, more absorbent and more mildew-resistant than cotton.

*Many of the varieties of hemp that were grown in North America have been lost. Seed banks weren’t maintained. New genetic breeding will be necessary using both foreign and domestic “ditchweed,” strains of hemp that went feral after cultivation ended.

*A 1938 Popular Mechanics described hemp as a “New Billion Dollar Crop.” …and that’s back when a billion dollar industry was really big money.


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(June 27, 2013 at 12:03 am)Polaris Wrote: If you legalize drug use in America, you save the lives of tens of thousands each year.

How so?
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(June 27, 2013 at 2:29 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote:
(June 27, 2013 at 12:03 am)Polaris Wrote: If you legalize drug use in America, you save the lives of tens of thousands each year.

How so?

Well maybe not for a couple years until the cartels run out of residual drug money from illicit trade (with drugs legalized, that drug trade falls apart), but the Mexican Drug War will likely come to an end.
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(June 27, 2013 at 7:38 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(June 27, 2013 at 2:29 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: How so?

Well maybe not for a couple years until the cartels run out of residual drug money from illicit trade (with drugs legalized, that drug trade falls apart), but the Mexican Drug War will likely come to an end.

With drugs legalized, drug trade wouldn't just stop would it? Unless the legal parties are selling drugs for a cheaper price. Which would be hard considering we actually have to make sure we're selling proper stuff and that requires money plus tax from government to deter kids from buying it, other regulations, plus money for advertisement, etc. etc. While the illegal sellers just have to lower their price, which they can afford to do since smuggling would be a lot easier to do.

Not to mention designer drugs.
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