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Worst Theistic Argument
#51
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
(September 29, 2009 at 7:14 am)Retorth Wrote: Arcanus, don't you think its rather unfair to assume the attributes you describe apply to all Atheists?

Actually, what I think is rather unfair is your misrepresentation of my comments, which made no references to "all" atheists.

(September 29, 2009 at 7:14 am)Retorth Wrote:
Arcanus Wrote:"For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will" (Rom. 8:7, NLT)

Have you seen prison inmate statistics in the US?

In addition to Adrian's excellent point, I cannot see how your question follows from that Scripture passage.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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#52
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
I removed that part before you posted because I realized you didn't refer to all Atheists. I misread so I edited my original post.

And my question was originally designed to tell you that christians do break the law and commit sins as well. All's fair.
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
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#53
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
(September 29, 2009 at 1:46 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: No, even if I have positive evidence the god of the bible is true, then I would believe in him, but he still is an asshole and there is nothing worthy of worshipping an asshole.

What dont you like about Him?
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."

Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
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#54
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
You read the book.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#55
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
(September 29, 2009 at 2:17 pm)Retorth Wrote: I removed that part before you posted because I realized you didn't refer to all Atheists. I misread, so I edited my original post.

Weird. On my end it was still there (although now it's gone). So perhaps I was responding to you while you were editing it.

(September 29, 2009 at 2:17 pm)Retorth Wrote: And my question was originally designed to tell you that Christians do break the law and commit sins as well. All's fair.

People are not in prison for breaking God's laws, yet it is God's laws that Romans 8:7 was talking about. Ergo, I was unable to see the connection between Romans 8:7 and your question.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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#56
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
You understood the book
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."

Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
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#57
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
I do, do you?
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#58
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
I believe so Tongue
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."

Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
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#59
Dumb christian responses to atheism
A few months ago, when I first began to research the atheism vs. christianity debate, I googled it of course and came up with a lot christian based sites that tried to argue that christianity is true and I noticed one common yet absured argument in almost all the sites I read.
Most of them said something like just because I have not seen [insert name of historical figure here] with my own eyes does not mean that he does not exisit. Yes but there are paintings or photos of these people, actual writings and letters by these people in their own handwriting as well as eyewitness accounts of their interaction with them. And will all of that information we can accurately construct who this person was and where their place in history is. Why other dumb arguments have you come acrooss in debate or online that christians give in defense of their pretend god?
"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man" --Thomas Jefferson
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#60
RE: Worst Theistic Argument
(September 28, 2009 at 12:16 pm)Retorth Wrote: How have you "experienced" god?

I have not experienced him.

But this is what happend:

I had thought long ago when I was in high school that I had demons in my head!
So my mom and her friends (all catholic of course) had came over to our place.
What I do remember is that one of the ladies was shaking my head and I saw a white dove.
Not knowing that I was probably having hullinations from having sigarettes? Could be possible.
But what did happen is that after this whole thing was over I had a different perspective on life it seemed my mind had opened.

Amp
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