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Problems with the theory of evolution.
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Problems with the theory of evolution.
Hi. I'm new here so this will be my first post. I'm Jamie from Alabama. I'm a proud Baptist and I'd like to point out a few inconsistencies I found in the theory of evolution.

The first point I'd like to make is in relation to the age of the earth and how it ties in with "evolution". I'm a young earth creationist. I believe that God created the earth approximately 5,000-6,000 years ago, and there is a good reason for this belief. Atheist scientists will tell us that the earth is approximately 4.6 billion years old, but this is impossible. Please hear me out and let me explain before you scoff and abandon this thread.

Atheist scientists believe that we evolved from stardust (even just saying it in a sentence sounds silly lol)

Quote:During a supernova, when a massive star explodes at the end of its life, the resulting high energy environment enables the creation of some of the heaviest elements including iron and nickel. The explosion also disperses the different elements across the universe, scattering the stardust which now makes up planets including Earth. Any element heavier than hydrogen is ultimately a product of the nuclear fusion that takes place within stars.

So apparently we are living beings that evolved from lifeless materials. It doesn't make much sense to me because last weekend I was sitting by a lake pondering God's marvelous creation when I picked up a rock and stared at it. It suddenly dawned on me that if that very rock was 4.6 billion years old like athiest scientists say it is, then rocks would have evolved into intelligent creatures also. If evolution really was true and we all evolved from lifeless materials over 4.6 billion years, then that rock should also be a mammal or an insect or something by now. But there it was, still a useless rock, just sitting there. No brain, no self-awareness. Nothing.

This is another point I'd like to make. In my senior year of science class my teacher (who I also suspect is an atheist) was explaining to us that humans developed large complex brains because "we integrated meat into our diets a long time ago".

Quote:The modern human brain is two to three times larger than that of our closest relatives, chimpanzees. But to supply energy to such metabolically demanding tissue, a distinct trade-off in energy allocation had to evolve. Meat and other protein-rich foods were evolutionary drivers of bigger, more complex human brains.

Sounds silly to me. We started eating meat and the protein made us evolve a larger more complex brain, resulting in superior intelligence? Okay... well we aren't the only species that eats meat lol. Why didn't other animals evolve to be as intelligent as us? I can name dozens and dozens of animals that eat meat, but can you name how many lions you've met that attended university and became doctors? When you went to high school did you have a grizzly bear teacher? Have you ever had your taxes done by a dog accountant? Nope, not me anyways. A human did my taxes this year.

Also, I did some research on something else. Apparently the total amount of water on earth is "1.386x10^21 liters", whatever that means. I don't know what the X and the ^ is for, but I'll continue anyways. There are almost 7 billion people on earth, so let's assume that human beings drink two liters of water a day, which could be true for some people. Some people drink a lot of water. That would mean that every human being on this planet collectively drinks 12x10^9 liters of water a day (I'm pretty sure that's right, I had to ask some Asian guy I know to do the math for me. I kinda suck at math)

Now here's what I'm getting at... atheist scientists say that life evolved around 3 billion years ago, so this would mean that human beings alone (excluding animals) would have consumed 9.5 times the amount of water on this planet. This is obviously impossible, because if this were true our oceans would be completely drained by now. So how do we still have large amounts of unused water?

One more quick thing. If there is no oxygen in space, then how does the sun keep burning? We all know that fire needs oxygen to keep burning.
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
Hello Jamie, and welcome to the forums! I used to be a creationist too. Oh and BaptistSmile

So I'm sure other posters will sufficiently suffice for your questions about abiogenesis, so I thought I'd start off by welcoming you and answering the sun question.

It is not burning as hot as a flame, it's burning hotter. The sun is a giant ball of gases and is actually made mostly of Hydrogen. We know this from pictures that are able to take pictures of elements. The core of the sun uses the process of fusion in which it fuses 4 hydrogen atoms to make 1 helium atom, releasing radiation, energy, and light. The sun loses 400 Million tons every second in this process, thus it is burning constantly and will eventually putter out like stars do that we are able to observe in the final stage of their existence.
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
Ok, this guy is either a troll or just incredibly stupid. I think we have another bit of gold for the 'dumb things theists say' area
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
Welcome!

I think you are confusing abiogenesis and evolution.

Plenty of people above have posted great areas for your lack of education on the subjects. I am not trying to be rude, but educate your self in subjects.
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
jamie_russels Wrote:Also, I did some research on something else. Apparently the total amount of water on earth is "1.386x10^21 liters", whatever that means. I don't know what the X and the ^ is for, but I'll continue anyways. There are almost 7 billion people on earth, so let's assume that human beings drink two liters of water a day, which could be true for some people. Some people drink a lot of water. That would mean that every human being on this planet collectively drinks 12x10^9 liters of water a day (I'm pretty sure that's right, I had to ask some Asian guy I know to do the math for me. I kinda suck at math)

1.4x10^21 (for simplicity's sake) divided by 12x10^9 gives us 1.16x10^29 days i.e. how long it takes us to drink that water. Divide by 365 and we get 3.20x10^26 years. Divide by 10^9 to get 3.2x10^17 billion years. The time you specified was 3 billion years for us to drink it in... well let's do some more maths to see just how off your friend was. 3 divided by 9.5 gives us 0.31 billion years to drink that water. Divide 3.2x10^17 by 0.31 to get 1.03x10^18.

What does that final number mean? It means your friend overshot the calculation by a factor of 1030000000000000000, or if you prefer percentages, the margin of error was 103000000000000000000%

None of this even matters because of one simple fact: water gets recycled after we excrete it.
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
I just wanted to reply so I get to follow this thread.... If this person comes back, this might get fun!

So far, Jamie, you seem like an ok poe...
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
This could be fun........

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(July 11, 2013 at 3:07 am)jamie_russels Wrote: One more quick thing. If there is no oxygen in space, then how does the sun keep burning? We all know that fire needs oxygen to keep burning.

This screams "POE" like nothing I've ever seen before.
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Ok guys, let's make a pool: Is she a hit and run, or will she come back? And in case she comes back, will she whine about how mean atheists are or will she continue to troll? Place your bets, place your bets! The winner gets 1000 Internets! Big Grin
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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