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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Drich Wrote:Because again, with a very basic biblical based understanding of Christianity none of the questions asked would pose a threat to even a grade schoolers biblically based faith. I honestly do not see it.
Which 'biblical-based understanding' is objectively correct? Prove your answer, please.
I must have asked this question of our local theists a hundred times and I've never once got an answer.
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 16, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Quote:Again, Drich, you're missing the point. The "good questions" are "good" in sense that they will get a Christian to truly think about their religion. How you would personally answer them is irrelevant.
There is NOTHING that will get a xtian to truly think about religion. They can't do it. Brainwashed and fed bullshit from birth Drippy does not have it in him to question. He thinks he has all the answers in his fucking holy book.
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 17, 2013 at 10:36 am
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(July 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Drich Wrote:Because again, with a very basic biblical based understanding of Christianity none of the questions asked would pose a threat to even a grade schoolers biblically based faith. I honestly do not see it.
Which 'biblical-based understanding' is objectively correct? Prove your answer, please.
I must have asked this question of our local theists a hundred times and I've never once got an answer.
All biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine are correct for a time, and all are also wrong when that time ends.
When Christ died on the cross He freeded us from the Law. Meaning we are no longer bound to a set of rules to find 'justification/righteousness' by. This mean not only are we not bound to a list of thou shalt not's nor does it mean we are bound to a list of thou shalts either. Christ's death left us with this one absolute, Love God with all of your being and love your neighbor as your self.
In this the the whole law is completely summed up. So how does that translate to no one specific interpertation of the bible?
It's simple. In loving God with all of our being we have to love God with all of our minds, Heart Spirit and Strength. To love God with all of our mind means to put fourth all of our understand and comperhension ablities to understand God. So when we start out we at first may have to bind ourself with the law as a means to love God with all of our being then we have to live by the Law. If we can live in freedom from the law then we are obligated to let the law go and live in the freedom we understand to be provided for us, but at the same time not allow our freedom to corrupt someone who does not understand it..
Paul underlines this principle over and over in his letters to the corinthians and Romans.
Christ Himself says: "For whatever we bind here on earth will be bound in Heaven, and whatever we loose here on earth will be loosed in Heaven."
The Key in all of this is Jesus Christ, as there is only Freedom to be found in his sacrifice. Without a Jesus Christ centered understanding of scripture, then none of his freedoms apply.
(July 16, 2013 at 9:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Again, Drich, you're missing the point. The "good questions" are "good" in sense that they will get a Christian to truly think about their religion. How you would personally answer them is irrelevant.
There is NOTHING that will get a xtian to truly think about religion. They can't do it. Brainwashed and fed bullshit from birth Drippy does not have it in him to question. He thinks he has all the answers in his fucking holy book.
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 17, 2013 at 10:17 pm
Quote:All biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine are correct for a time, and all are also wrong when that time ends.
When Christ died on the cross He freeded us from the Law. Meaning we are no longer bound to a set of rules to find 'justification/righteousness' by. This mean not only are we not bound to a list of thou shalt not's nor does it mean we are bound to a list of thou shalts either. Christ's death left us with this one absolute, Love God with all of your being and love your neighbor as your self.
In this the the whole law is completely summed up. So how does that translate to no one specific interpertation of the bible?
So the only behavioural difference between an atheist and a christian is that a christian loves god? how does this one difference affect anyone's life?
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 18, 2013 at 9:20 am
(July 17, 2013 at 10:17 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Quote:All biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine are correct for a time, and all are also wrong when that time ends.
When Christ died on the cross He freeded us from the Law. Meaning we are no longer bound to a set of rules to find 'justification/righteousness' by. This mean not only are we not bound to a list of thou shalt not's nor does it mean we are bound to a list of thou shalts either. Christ's death left us with this one absolute, Love God with all of your being and love your neighbor as your self.
In this the the whole law is completely summed up. So how does that translate to no one specific interpertation of the bible?
So the only behavioural difference between an atheist and a christian is that a christian loves god? how does this one difference affect anyone's life? Christ says if you love me you will keep my Father's commands.
The difference between keeping God's commands as a sign of love and keeping God's commands as a way to earn salvation or righteousness, is that in a love relationship one does not work a behave a certain way to earn salvation. We work or behave a certain way because the one we love with all of our being wants us to exhibit certain attributes.
For example: if you love your spouce with all that you can he/she like certain foods, but hated others, or wanted you all to themselves, would you only provide the foods they hated? Would you cheat on them regularly? What if it was your young son or daughter? Or would you do everything in your power to give them what they want and or need from you?
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 18, 2013 at 8:06 pm
(July 17, 2013 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote: (July 16, 2013 at 8:49 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Which 'biblical-based understanding' is objectively correct? Prove your answer, please.
I must have asked this question of our local theists a hundred times and I've never once got an answer.
All biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine are correct for a time, and all are also wrong when that time ends.
When Christ died on the cross He freeded us from the Law. Meaning we are no longer bound to a set of rules to find 'justification/righteousness' by. This mean not only are we not bound to a list of thou shalt not's nor does it mean we are bound to a list of thou shalts either. Christ's death left us with this one absolute, Love God with all of your being and love your neighbor as your self.
In this the the whole law is completely summed up. So how does that translate to no one specific interpertation of the bible?
It's simple. In loving God with all of our being we have to love God with all of our minds, Heart Spirit and Strength. To love God with all of our mind means to put fourth all of our understand and comperhension ablities to understand God. So when we start out we at first may have to bind ourself with the law as a means to love God with all of our being then we have to live by the Law. If we can live in freedom from the law then we are obligated to let the law go and live in the freedom we understand to be provided for us, but at the same time not allow our freedom to corrupt someone who does not understand it..
Paul underlines this principle over and over in his letters to the corinthians and Romans.
Christ Himself says: "For whatever we bind here on earth will be bound in Heaven, and whatever we loose here on earth will be loosed in Heaven."
The Key in all of this is Jesus Christ, as there is only Freedom to be found in his sacrifice. Without a Jesus Christ centered understanding of scripture, then none of his freedoms apply.
I have no idea why you gave this as an answer, because it didn't address what I was actually asking.
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 18, 2013 at 9:12 pm
(July 17, 2013 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote: All biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine are correct for a time, and all are also wrong when that time ends.
In that case, if I may channel Matt Dillahunty for a moment, why should we give a crap about it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 18, 2013 at 9:20 pm
(July 18, 2013 at 9:20 am)Drich Wrote: Christ says if you love me you will keep my Father's commands.
The difference between keeping God's commands as a sign of love and keeping God's commands as a way to earn salvation or righteousness, is that in a love relationship one does not work a behave a certain way to earn salvation. We work or behave a certain way because the one we love with all of our being wants us to exhibit certain attributes.
For example: if you love your spouce with all that you can he/she like certain foods, but hated others, or wanted you all to themselves, would you only provide the foods they hated? Would you cheat on them regularly? What if it was your young son or daughter? Or would you do everything in your power to give them what they want and or need from you? oh ok, so what you're saying is that christians are nice people because they love god. and the rest of us are nice people because we're nice people? yea, what difference does god make, then?
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 18, 2013 at 10:27 pm
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(July 18, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (July 17, 2013 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote: All biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine are correct for a time, and all are also wrong when that time ends.
When Christ died on the cross He freeded us from the Law. Meaning we are no longer bound to a set of rules to find 'justification/righteousness' by. This mean not only are we not bound to a list of thou shalt not's nor does it mean we are bound to a list of thou shalts either. Christ's death left us with this one absolute, Love God with all of your being and love your neighbor as your self.
In this the the whole law is completely summed up. So how does that translate to no one specific interpertation of the bible?
It's simple. In loving God with all of our being we have to love God with all of our minds, Heart Spirit and Strength. To love God with all of our mind means to put fourth all of our understand and comperhension ablities to understand God. So when we start out we at first may have to bind ourself with the law as a means to love God with all of our being then we have to live by the Law. If we can live in freedom from the law then we are obligated to let the law go and live in the freedom we understand to be provided for us, but at the same time not allow our freedom to corrupt someone who does not understand it..
Paul underlines this principle over and over in his letters to the corinthians and Romans.
Christ Himself says: "For whatever we bind here on earth will be bound in Heaven, and whatever we loose here on earth will be loosed in Heaven."
The Key in all of this is Jesus Christ, as there is only Freedom to be found in his sacrifice. Without a Jesus Christ centered understanding of scripture, then none of his freedoms apply.
I have no idea why you gave this as an answer, because it didn't address what I was actually asking.
What were you asking?
(July 18, 2013 at 9:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (July 17, 2013 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote: All biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine are correct for a time, and all are also wrong when that time ends.
In that case, if I may channel Matt Dillahunty for a moment, why should we give a crap about it?
Give a crap about what? The law?
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RE: 40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian
July 19, 2013 at 5:27 am
No, you said that all "biblically based jesus Christ centered doctrine" is correct for its time and wrong after that time. So doesn't that make it sort of irrelevant for our time! Being "wrong" and all? Why would you follow a wrong doctrine?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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