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[genkaus]

that was brutal genkaus...

knowledge is a big word, your using it the way that religious ppl do. i like my definition of the word knowledge to involve the concept of irrefutable proof. that's because im an intellectual and reason based person.

If you were an intellectual and rational person, you'd realize that defining knowledge on basis of irrefutable proof is something religious people do. In science, there is no such thing as irrefutable proof - only reasonable certainty. Clearly, you are the one using it the way religious do - not me.

[christcahinkilla]

religious ppl base knowledge on irrefutable proof? you sure? are you reasonably certain of that statement?

[genkaus]

religious ppl base knowledge on irrefutable proof? you sure? are you reasonably certain of that statement?

Yes and yes.

You can see it by the fact that they consider their holy books to be irrefutable proof of god's existence. And when faced with arguments against their gods their usual reply is "if you can't know it with 100% certainty, then you don't know it".

[christcahinkilla]

fair enough i like that.

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so whats the middle ground?

[genkaus]

fair enough i like that.

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so whats the middle ground?

Middle ground?

[NoraBrimstone]

Sorry, but, what in the name of fuck is this?

dont' got one

[christcahinkilla]

i didnt write that lol, rough...

a middle ground is a compromise between people that are at odds.

[genkaus]

i didnt write that lol, rough...

a middle ground is a compromise between people that are at odds.

And in this context it refers to...?

[christcahinkilla]

the war between theists and atheists... if there was a compromise, meaning both sides would have to modify their stance, what would it be?

[genkaus]

the war between theists and atheists... if there was a compromise, meaning both sides would have to modify their stance, what would it be?

None. No compromise. Either a god does exist or it doesn't. Regardless of beliefs, there is no middle ground on that. Ultimately, one side is wrong and the other is right and there can be no compromise between the two.