Why I Am Pro-Life

[Minimalist]

If law said that it's allowed then you wouldn't have a problem with it?

Probably not. Were I a Spartan faced with a crippled child I imagine I would accept the conventional wisdom of my society.

But I have a bit of a problem when then want to terminate someone's life because they were irresponsible enough to not use contraception.

Again. What fucking business is it of yours?

If you are pro-choice then why do you have a problem if I choose to be against abortion? I'm not saying that it should be illegal, just that I don't support it.

Because I sense an inherent hypocrisy in your position. If you vote for some jesus freak scumbag who wants to ban abortion you are just as guilty as the ones who throw rocks at women going into clinics. If your position is purely academic I suppose it does not matter. I still think you are simply trying to impose your views on others.

[NoraBrimstone]

But I have a bit of a problem when then want to terminate someone's life because they were irresponsible enough to not use contraception.

Fuck you, you misogynistic shit cunt. How fucking dare you think so little of women. Remember a woman gave you life you little shit. Just because we have sex and occasionally fuck it up, you think that's a crime that should carry a fucking life sentence? Murderers get less fucking punishment than you believe women deserve for having unprotexted sex. What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Isun]

So why do women so often have unprotected sex? Oh yes, republican states refuse to give proper sex education. They are all about abstinence which of course is stupid on the face of it. And when they do refer to contraceptives, they deliberately spread false information. Meantime states like California that do provide good sex education, abortions are decreasing. unwanted pregnancies are decreasing.

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So why do women so often have unprotected sex? Oh yes, republican states refuse to give proper sex education. They are all about abstinence which of course is stupid on the face of it. And when they do refer to contraceptives, they deliberately spread false information. Meantime states like California that do provide good sex education, abortions are decreasing. unwanted pregnancies are decreasing.

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So why do women so often have unprotected sex? Oh yes, republican states refuse to give proper sex education. They are all about abstinence which of course is stupid on the face of it. And when they do refer to contraceptives, they deliberately spread false information. Meantime states like California that do provide good sex education, abortions are decreasing. unwanted pregnancies are decreasing.

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[Something completely different]

The fact that places with instituted sex education have the least teen and unwanted pregnancies should speak volumes.

But it doesn`t, the reason being that social conservatives do not have an interest in improving living conditions for women.

[Anomalocaris]

The term "pro life" doesn`t exist here.

We refer to these people as "Abtreibungsgegner" "Opponents to abortion".

They should instead be referred to as "pro-misery".

Nothing speaks of pro-misery as much as a concocting a god where none can be show to exist, and claim the said god somehow in his omnipotence he had to suffer in order to allow you to not suffer, but you would only be free of suffering if you, suffer.

[ITChick]

But I have a bit of a problem when then want to terminate someone's life because they were irresponsible enough to not use contraception. Before (as always) rape argument comes up- I think that abortion is justified in that case.

If you are pro-choice then why do you have a problem if I choose to be against abortion? I'm not saying that it should be illegal, just that I don't support it.

Yes - because it is only the woman's fault if they do not use contraception. Men are constantly begging them to allow them to use a condom, but they always refuse.

Idiot.

[NoraBrimstone]

But I have a bit of a problem when then want to terminate someone's life because they were irresponsible enough to not use contraception. Before (as always) rape argument comes up- I think that abortion is justified in that case.

If you are pro-choice then why do you have a problem if I choose to be against abortion? I'm not saying that it should be illegal, just that I don't support it.

Yes - because it is only the woman's fault if they do not use contraception. Men are constantly begging them to allow them to use a condom, but they always refuse.

Idiot.

But of course, it's only wrong for women to have unprotected sex. Men can do what they want because, you know, penises. Only women have to be punished and have our lives ruined as a punishment, silly.

[DeistPaladin]

A troll in your case is someone that can't refrain from pretty insults, lacks basic comprehension skills and doggedly sticks to a point way after that point has been refuted successfully.

Oh and whines like a baby.

Ah, so you're projecting, then. Got it.

[pineapplebunnybounce]

And yet it doesn't have a functioning CNS until till around 23. before 23weeks (20 to be safe) i see no reason to consider the fetus's wellbeing considering the fetus isn't even aware of its wellbeing.

Again, wtf has well-being to do with the fact that it's a human life.

Please get back to the subject.

You accused me of taking an emotional stance when i explained the science behind my stance, and then when i again, explained it, because you obviously couldn't understand, you accuse of me denying it's a human life?

when the fuck have i denied it's a human life? do you want try again? Perhaps equate it to murder like you did at page 2?

you think it's unethical to terminate a pregnancy because we're preventing another human being from existing? Are you aware that we routinely kill embryos in IVF procedures? Are you aware that there's a fertility test that actually makes hamster human hybrid embryos that die after a few days? Do you know how many embryos are frozen and will never become a baby? What is so wrong about preventing someone from existing, especially if the mother is exposed to serious risks during pregnancy, what is the ethical issue here? No one is hurt when an embryo dies.

[DeistPaladin]

But I have a bit of a problem when then want to terminate someone's life because they were irresponsible enough to not use contraception. Before (as always) rape argument comes up- I think that abortion is justified in that case.

THANK YOU!

An anti-abortion-rights advocate finally gets mad enough to slip up and speak the truth. This is not about protecting life. If it were and you really did think the fetus was a "living being", you would not "allow" abortion in the case of rape. It's a no-brainer that it's morally wrong to punish children for what their fathers did.

No, this is about punishing people, women in particular, who have what you deem to be "irresponsible" or "immoral" sex. You want to be able to say to women with an unwanted pregnancy, "you made your bed honey, now you go lie it in", don't you? Go on, admit it. You've come this far.

This isn't pro-life. It's anti-sex. It's a throwback to our puritan days when a woman who committed adultery had to wear a scarlet letter.