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Why I Am Pro-Life
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 11:59 am
So why not allow mother to kill her born baby? Disgusting.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 12:51 pm (This post was last modified: July 22, 2013 at 12:52 pm by NoraBrimstone.)
Oh... So I do need to bring it out again. Great.

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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 12:54 pm (This post was last modified: July 22, 2013 at 12:55 pm by fr0d0.)
Seems like only pro choicers want to use that label here Nora. Target missed! Sad
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#84
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 1:18 pm
(July 22, 2013 at 11:59 am)wwjs Wrote: So why not allow mother to kill her born baby? Disgusting.

Because it is against the law. What part of that is giving you the most trouble?

BTW, before you get too high and mighty remember that the Greeks and Romans gave parents precisely that right and in the case of deformed children they were expected to exercise it.

Now, I'm still waiting for an answer to my question. Why are you so concerned what someone else does with her body? Assuming you are not the father you have no interest in the matter. It does not concern you at all. You have no financial liability to raise the child nor will you be the one who is up changing diapers.

Why are you such a busy body?
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 3:15 pm
(July 22, 2013 at 7:21 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Take that up with the vast consensus of scientists orogenicman. I have no interest in your personal opinion.

So you are claiming a vast consensus of scientists are behind your opinion? You've done the actual survey, not just relied on a parochial school textbook from 1961, right?
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 3:35 pm
(July 22, 2013 at 4:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(July 22, 2013 at 4:05 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Did you even read the rest of my post? Do you even know when it starts looking human? Way before I say it's not ok. Or you know what, just keep repeating yourself.

Yes I did. You described a viable life form. Are you saying that has nothing to do with an emotional attachment?

I don't wish to discuss that. All I wish to discuss is the scientific classification and the ethical imperative thereof. I am very aware of the reasoning for the various legal positions currently in force around the world. There is nothing to discuss around those for me.
What? I said the pregnancy can be terminated without killing the fetus, how is that an emotional stance? Have you seen what a fetus looks like at 10 weeks? And yet it doesn't have a functioning CNS until till around 23. before 23weeks (20 to be safe) i see no reason to consider the fetus's wellbeing considering the fetus isn't even aware of its wellbeing.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 4:36 pm (This post was last modified: July 22, 2013 at 4:37 pm by wwjs.)
(July 22, 2013 at 12:51 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Oh... So I do need to bring it out again. Great.

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Nice try
(July 22, 2013 at 1:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Because it is against the law.
If law said that it's allowed then you wouldn't have a problem with it?
Quote:BTW, before you get too high and mighty remember that the Greeks and Romans gave parents precisely that right and in the case of deformed children they were expected to exercise it.
Yeah, women also had less rights than males.

Quote:Now, I'm still waiting for an answer to my question. Why are you so concerned what someone else does with her body? Assuming you are not the father you have no interest in the matter. It does not concern you at all. You have no financial liability to raise the child nor will you be the one who is up changing diapers.
I have no problem with what they do to their own bodies. They can dismember themselves and upload it on the internet for all I care. But I have a bit of a problem when then want to terminate someone's life because they were irresponsible enough to not use contraception. Before (as always) rape argument comes up- I think that abortion is justified in that case.

If you are pro-choice then why do you have a problem if I choose to be against abortion? I'm not saying that it should be illegal, just that I don't support it.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 4:59 pm (This post was last modified: July 22, 2013 at 5:01 pm by fr0d0.)
(July 22, 2013 at 3:15 pm)orogenicman Wrote: So you are claiming a vast consensus of scientists are behind your opinion? You've done the actual survey, not just relied on a parochial school textbook from 1961, right?

I quoted my sources. go looksee.
(July 22, 2013 at 3:35 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: And yet it doesn't have a functioning CNS until till around 23. before 23weeks (20 to be safe) i see no reason to consider the fetus's wellbeing considering the fetus isn't even aware of its wellbeing.

Again, wtf has well-being to do with the fact that it's a human life.

Please get back to the subject.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 5:05 pm
20 weeks

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I think ^ that should be the cut off....it called be rational and reasonable.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 22, 2013 at 5:18 pm
I think abortion is something completely different to what i'm talking about. You guys are taking about when you think it's acceptable to kill something without it suffering.
I'm talking about when it is ethically OK to prevent a life from starting.
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