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Why I Am Pro-Life
#31
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 9:01 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Then no human is important and murder isn't an issue pineapple.
You think that we don't kill other people because they're unique? Then is it ok to kill baby twins? Just one of them. Because that one isn't unique. Honestly, how did you even make this leap?
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#32
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 9:01 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Then no human is important and murder isn't an issue pineapple.

Abortion is not murder due to the fact that abortion is legal.
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#33
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
And a fetus is not a "person."
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#34
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
When does a fetus become a "person"?
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#35
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 9:01 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Then no human is important and murder isn't an issue pineapple.

That convolution is exactly why there are so many religious wars. Congratulations. The fact is that human life does NOT begin at conception. The fact is that abortion is a woman's right UNDER THE LAW.
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#36
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 8:20 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(July 21, 2013 at 6:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: A human being exists from conception, and moral choices apply.

At conception, the zygote is a single-cell organism, no more a being than an amoebae.

Until it has a brain, it isn't a being.

Now it could someday become a being if a natural abortion does not occur. But the woman's rights exist at all times. "Definitely now" trumps "maybe someday".

This is precisely why I am pro-allowing-women-to-get-abortions.

If there is not even a chance of developing a human being from it at a stage in time, then it should be abortable.

Simples.

You can always try again, but you CANNOT abort after you've had a child.

So why is this a problem?

I have no fucking idea.

A man and his half of DNA can always find a consenting partner to yield the other half and create a child.

A woman and her half of DNA can find a consenting man to help create a child.

If either do not want one, then there should be either an abortion before it becomes viable or a financial arrangement setup for the parent who has forced the issue.

Why is this such an issue?
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#37
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 9:16 pm)wwjs Wrote: When does a fetus become a "person"?

If you want my opinion I would say when they are about 30 and finally move the fuck out of mommy's basement.
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#38
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 9:03 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:
(July 21, 2013 at 9:01 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Then no human is important and murder isn't an issue pineapple.
You think that we don't kill other people because they're unique? Then is it ok to kill baby twins? Just one of them. Because that one isn't unique. Honestly, how did you even make this leap?

That's not what I'm saying pineapple. It's what you're saying Confused
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#39
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 9:39 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If you want my opinion I would say when they are about 30 and finally move the fuck out of mommy's basement.
No, seriously. "It's just a fetus" comes a lot from "pro-choice" side so it would help to understand that position more if it was explained when a fetus becomes a baby.
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it" - Robert A. Heinlein
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Good guy Ronald Reagan

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#40
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 21, 2013 at 9:24 pm)orogenicman Wrote: That convolution is exactly why there are so many religious wars. Congratulations. The fact is that human life does NOT begin at conception. The fact is that abortion is a woman's right UNDER THE LAW.

Why don't you find that evidence that science says that a human isn't formed at conception? Instead of spewing your religious hatred at a scientifically based argument?

AN ABORTION IS A WOMAN'S RIGHT UNDER LAW!

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