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Being Angry: 101
#31
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 27, 2013 at 3:38 am)Maelstrom Wrote:
(July 27, 2013 at 3:23 am)Godschild Wrote: Like a loving parent forgoes things they want, to give their children what they want, both instances are loving.

A parent provides a just punishment, not one of suffering that torments the child. Hell is not a just punishment, as any real parent would not insist the child sit in the corner for eternity while flames lick at his body simply for disobeying the parent.

I was focusing on God's love, why do you focus on hell. I've explained why hell is just and how one gets there, I don't think it needs repeating to those who believe they are intelligent.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#32
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 28, 2013 at 8:31 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've explained why hell is just and how one gets there.

What you have explained is warped logic to justify to yourself that the sadistic monster you worship is good and loving. Your justifications are in no way grounded in reality.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#33
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 27, 2013 at 3:45 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Until someone says, word for word, "I want to go to hell". They haven't chosen to go there, you can tell yourself they have to help you sleep better at night (but I quite doubt that you lose sleep over something as trivial as billions upon billions burning in hell), but these people were just being themselves, and happened to not believe in your bullshit. It's that simple. Your god chooses to put them in hell. That's on him, and that's on those who agree with his doings.

I've never heard a criminal say I want to go to jail or I want the death sentence, but is they break the law and a found guilty the a sentence is set accordingly. I do sleep better knowing criminals are being kept off our streets, I lose sleep over the lost, sorry to disappoint you but, that's the way it is with me. Oh, for the record, the judge doesn't put people in jail, the law does and it does by a persons choice.

(July 28, 2013 at 8:33 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(July 28, 2013 at 8:31 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've explained why hell is just and how one gets there.

What you have explained is warped logic to justify to yourself that the sadistic monster you worship is good and loving. Your justifications are in no way grounded in reality.

I'm not going to argue this with you, we'll let you death answer that.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#34
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 28, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: the law does and it does by a persons choice.

It is not a person's choice to go to jail. The key is to commit a crime and never get caught for that crime. Plenty of criminals never get caught.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#35
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 27, 2013 at 4:06 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
Quote: Quote:3. I am angry that churches say homosexuality is a sin, and then deny that the teaching does any damage in the face of many homosexuals who claim the opposite, through tears and suicide.


Just because they make the claim doesn't mean it's true, if they want to practice something unnatural they should be ready for people's opinion of them.

What's unnatural about it? Homosexual behaviour has been observed many times in nature. Don't put your own preferences onto the natural world.

That is the biggest bunch of bull that's ever been put out by scientist. These scientist believe animals have the same feelings that humans do and that's ridiculous, I've seen dogs hunch a persons leg, does that mean their preference of sex is with humans. Animals breed out of instinct which means they do not actually choose, so it's not my preference it's gospel ie. truth.

(July 28, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(July 28, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: the law does and it does by a persons choice.

It is not a person's choice to go to jail. The key is to commit a crime and never get caught for that crime. Plenty of criminals never get caught.

Now you're showing stupidity, why?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#36
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 28, 2013 at 8:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: Now you're showing stupidity, why?

Your idea of stupidity is my understanding of reason.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#37
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 28, 2013 at 8:49 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(July 28, 2013 at 8:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: Now you're showing stupidity, why?

Your idea of stupidity is my understanding of reason.

You should go back and reread what you're arguing against, because you have agreed with what I said. Your argument lies with the criminal making a choice to be a criminal.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#38
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 28, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 27, 2013 at 3:45 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Until someone says, word for word, "I want to go to hell". They haven't chosen to go there, you can tell yourself they have to help you sleep better at night (but I quite doubt that you lose sleep over something as trivial as billions upon billions burning in hell), but these people were just being themselves, and happened to not believe in your bullshit. It's that simple. Your god chooses to put them in hell. That's on him, and that's on those who agree with his doings.

I've never heard a criminal say I want to go to jail or I want the death sentence, but is they break the law and a found guilty the a sentence is set accordingly.
If you want to play this game, then don't say atheists choose to go to hell, just be honest and say you think we deserve to burn forever for not believing in the same bullshit you do. Because as I understand it, it's not just any bullshit, it has to be your specific brand. All the muslims and hindus are going to hell with us, correct?
Quote:I do sleep better knowing criminals are being kept off our streets, I lose sleep over the lost, sorry to disappoint you but, that's the way it is with me.
I don't understand how you can lose sleep over having people in hell now, but think you will be ok with it for the whole of eternity. Do you even know how eternity feels like? That's the point, it's so crazy no one does.

I'm also not sure what you're trying to imply with your jail analogy here. Are you saying atheists will ruin your fun in heaven and so should be sent to hell?

Quote:Oh, for the record, the judge doesn't put people in jail, the law does
and it does by a persons choice.
Whose choice? I'm not sure what planet you're on, but on this one, most people in jail don't want to be there. They go there because society has decided to live on certain terms that the society believes is just.

Your god's rules are not just, and he came up with it by himself without consulting anyone, so there's no choice involved here. the only choice is his. and he chooses to put us in hell and you agree with that judgement.

As I see it, atheists have plenty to be angry about.
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#39
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 28, 2013 at 8:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: That is the biggest bunch of bull that's ever been put out by scientist. These scientist believe animals have the same feelings that humans do and that's ridiculous, I've seen dogs hunch a persons leg, does that mean their preference of sex is with humans. Animals breed out of instinct which means they do not actually choose, so it's not my preference it's gospel ie. truth.

This paragraph is incredibly daft. I especially like how you shift responsibility from yourself onto your leather bound book of bigotry. Classy.
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#40
RE: Being Angry: 101
(July 28, 2013 at 8:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: That is the biggest bunch of bull that's ever been put out by scientist. These scientist believe animals have the same feelings that humans do and that's ridiculous, I've seen dogs hunch a persons leg, does that mean their preference of sex is with humans. Animals breed out of instinct which means they do not actually choose, so it's not my preference it's gospel ie. truth.

Are you, perchance, a biologist? Do you have any expertise in animal husbandry, stuff like that? If not, why do you feel qualified to speak on subjects you know nothing about?

Oh, and incidentally, you're just demonstrably wrong on every point, as a small period of research would have shown you; if what you were saying about animals breeding solely out of instinct were true, then we wouldn't find and observe animal behaviours that are specifically based around the genitalia that the animals share. Do a search for Bonnet Macaques or Kobus Kob, if you want confirmation.

I don't think anyone actually wants to confirm that of course, I just wanted it to be clear that, of the two of us, only I had done any info gathering before posting. Wrong again, GC.
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