Adam and Eve Saved the Environment

[Godscreated]

Because the Bible is about the spiritual, doesn't it make sense the death would be spiritual. Oh, I forgot you are here to make mocker and lean nothing excuse me for trying to shoe you what God meant. Carry on with your mockery, we await your wisdom.

I appears as though you do not have to pass a spelling test to be a Christian. hock:

Should check your own, before condemning others.

[Minimalist]

God told Adam and Eve to procreate while they were in the Garden, by the way the tree is not the tree of knowledge.

G-C, do you even read your own shit?

15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

Gen 2

[Michael Schubert]

The Bible is flawed, plain and simple. This is why most Christians have a hard time reconciling the teachings and stories within it, and instead they focus on a few snippets here and there to cling to as their core doctrines. Cherry picking is bad, no matter how you look at it.

Science has revealed much, and because of that I take Evolution at face value, especially considering the extensive fossil record. I may not understand how it relates to the Genesis creation story entirely, but I do know that there are two instances in the book where God creates man. Since days in heaven are long periods of time on earth, it's possible that his creation of man started with the original spark of life, letting them evolve from lesser biological forms to what they later became. The order of creations in Genesis is also nonsensical, but that's understandable as this is a very old book that requires much interpretation when not understood by modern revelation.

As for the creation of Adam and Eve, this was an instantaneous thing. God created Adam from the dust of the Earth, and Eve was created from his Rib. Their creation was special since Adam was also the embodiment of Michael the Archangel, sent to Earth to be the first Patriarch and Prophet, and this is why they were separate from other creations.

Thank you. However, how do you know that Adam and Eve were real people? How do you know days in heaven are shorter than times on earth? You cannot quote the Holy Bible to answer this, for it is geocentric and written by human authors.

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I appears as though you do not have to pass a spelling test to be a Christian. hock:

Should check your own, before condemning others.

If you don't stop trolling, you're going to get reported and thrown off the forum one of these days.

[PeterPriesthood]

Thank you. However, how do you know that Adam and Eve were real people? How do you know days in heaven are shorter than times on earth? You cannot quote the Holy Bible to answer this, for it is geocentric and written by human authors.

I can't know they were real by any conventional means. The Bible is poor proof of anything from that time period. I know my Church says the Book of Mormon is perfect, but I have my own opinions about that as well. The only reason I say that I know the things I spout off is because I've considered faith as an option in trying to find these things out. I believe that God answers me because of my Faith in Jesus Christ, and I feel no need to deny the promptings of the Holy Ghost in these matters.

[Godscreated]

So, Adam and Eve, I am forever in your debt. You saved the environment.

I found this whole thread so fascinating. I guess because it brushes against my own beliefs very positively. God is all-knowing, so that simply means that it was his plan all along to have Adam and Eve fall from grace. They transgressed in the garden, and in so doing they learned right from wrong, which is essentially in learning what is and what isn't of God.

"Adam fell that man might be. Men are that they might have joy."
2 Nephi 2:25, The Book of Mormon

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Because the Bible is about the spiritual, doesn't it make sense the death would be spiritual. Oh, I forgot you are here to make mocker and lean nothing excuse me for trying to shoe you what God meant. Carry on with your mockery, we await your wisdom.

You're confused about the death that God spoke of in regards to Adam and Eve. Spiritual Death is to die in sin, and Adam was a righteous man. He was righteous because he learned through the Fall in the Garden of Eden what was right and what was wrong. Therefore, the death God spoke of was obviously a physical one.

Adam gained the ability to die once he consumed the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Modern Prophets have learned that a day in Heaven is roughly 1000 years on Earth, so the fact that Adam died nearly 1000 years after he ate the fruit fits with God's proclamation that he would die that very day.

I do not accept you prophets, if God were to send prophets today it would be to the entire church, as He did in the OT when He sent prophets to Israel. As for the 1000 years as 1 day from the Book of Peter, is a statement that time has no meaning to the eternal God.
As for the spiritual death, why after that day did God not walk with men until Christ came. God would walk in the Garden every evening with them, after that day God has not walked with man, we were separated from Him spiritually.

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Should check your own, before condemning others.

If you don't stop trolling, you're going to get reported and thrown off the forum one of these days.

Go ahead cry baby, make sure you get mama to check you spelling.

[Rahul]

If you don't stop trolling, you're going to get reported and thrown off the forum one of these days.

Go ahead cry baby, make sure you get mama to check you spelling.

Tsk, tsk you two. If you're going to insult each other at least make it amusing for the rest of us.

[PeterPriesthood]

I do not accept you prophets, if God were to send prophets today it would be to the entire church, as He did in the OT when He sent prophets to Israel.

God sends Prophets to the World, not to the Church. Definitely not to your Church, as it's an abomination before the eyes of the Lord. Those olden day prophets, such as Jonah, were sent on their lonesome. Why would the formula change from then to now? You seem to think it would.

God has always sent prophets. Having Prophets nowadays just makes sense. When Judas killed himself, was his spot in the Twelve Disciples left empty, or did they fill it with a new member? Apostles are prophets, seers and revelators...they are always necessary, and organization of the Church is clear. Where are your Church's revelators and prophets? Where's your council of twelve? Your Church is in Apostasy...being a branch off from another Apostate organization does your religion no good.

As for the 1000 years as 1 day from the Book of Peter, is a statement that time has no meaning to the eternal God.

Interpretation. Another reason why your Church is false: it must interpret everything it pulls from the Bible. If God could reveal the truth of scripture to you, you would be in a much better position to argue your points.

As for the spiritual death, why after that day did God not walk with men until Christ came. God would walk in the Garden every evening with them, after that day God has not walked with man, we were separated from Him spiritually.

Right. That's why he appeared to Moses, or to any of the other prophets that came after Adam. That's why Angels still walked with man, right? Enoch definitely walked with God. You are a fool, and you cannot possibly hope to understand scripture. The Bible is flawed...you need spiritual eyes in order to understand what it says. Only Seers can reveal hidden meaning in long-decayed text such as the Bible. Are you a Seer?

[Rahul]

As for the 1000 years as 1 day from the Book of Peter, is a statement that time has no meaning to the eternal God.

Interpretation. Another reason why your Church is false: it must interpret everything it pulls from the Bible. If God could reveal the truth of scripture to you, you would be in a much better position to argue your points.

I like this Peter guy already.

[PeterPriesthood]

I like this Peter guy already.

Who? This guy?

[Michael Schubert]

Who? This guy?

Him, too.