Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 10, 2025, 4:58 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
(August 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Because you and your theist friends won't stop bringing it up[religion]. This goes for any topic: someone brings it up, then the discussion ensues. So here we are to discuss it.

Last look...this is the Christian section of the forum?

(August 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: If you don't have something that's clearly defined, or, in your words, if you can't put God into a box, then this thing cannot be discussed honestly, because neither side will know what the discussion is about.

Dude #1: I wanna talk about Bigfoot!
Dude #2: Sweet. What do you know about him?
Dude #1: I dunno, it just sounds cool...and he's OUT there, man!
Dude #2: I guess I don't know much about it either...not much to discuss, is there?
Dude #1: Guess not, dude. Later, yo!
Dude #2: Yeah, man! Later!

I'm still wondering about what you are trying to say here?! I mean really now....God and Bigfoot? Wouldn't this be akin to calling a mannequin an atheist?

(August 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: That's right! And then you put that person's advice to the test. Something that's demonstrably true should have no issues with repeatable results. We know when an expert is right when his/her words can be demonstrated as true.

And how do YOU test? By saying "I know"? Even if you don't [really]? Or, in light that you never tried something yourself?

But, as long as the "personally unproven" experience/experiment doesn't envolve God.... thats fact?!

In other words: you are willing to take unproven "scientific" theory and concepts as (pardon the pun) gospel... yet religious theory and concept is dead wrong! Hypocristy?

(August 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I dunno, ronedee. Three different people pointed out the flaw in your analogy. If we failed to understand, it's only because you failed to present something that could be understood the way you wanted it to.

Three people does not a jury make. [as I said to you before] That is why I don't like to use "analogies". But, it is handy...right Sasquach?Big Grin
Quis ut Deus?
Reply
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
[Image: 2a9.jpg]
Reply
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
Quote:Last look...this is the Christian section of the forum?

Yes and this is the proper place to discuss your sad reliance on silly bullshit.
Reply
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
(August 6, 2013 at 3:25 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(August 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Because you and your theist friends won't stop bringing it up[religion]. This goes for any topic: someone brings it up, then the discussion ensues. So here we are to discuss it.

Last look...this is the Christian section of the forum?

Indeed it is. haitherenicetomeetyou...I still don't see why you're upset that we're talking about Religion. Or...maybe you're just mad that we don't believe in it. Yes, that must be it.

ronedee Wrote:I mean really now....God and Bigfoot? Wouldn't this be akin to calling a mannequin an atheist?

No...?

Let me take two steps back and reiterate what I was saying because...well...this concept was clearly lost on you. Comparing God and Bigfoot is as easy as comparing Santa and the Tooth Fairy. Why? Because we're talking about two things that are made-up claims. People say they have evidence for the existence of God the same way other say they have evidence for the existence of Bigfoot. Both claims end up as empty as a horse trough at high noon. This comparison doesn't get any more basic.

Though I do want to hear why you brought mannequins into this. Please. Do tell all.

ronedee Wrote:And how do YOU test? By saying "I know"? Even if you don't [really]? Or, in light that you never tried something yourself?

That's not at all how a test works, and you're being dishonest if you really are trying to troll that load of crap around here.

As is the case with many things in Science, we don't have to test every theory ourselves because the scientific community has already done so. Nothing is published in science without peer review and reproduced results. That's all there is to it.

Now, if you're saying that taking the scientific community at their word is a faith-based action, then you've likewise implied that the Scientists are dishonest with their work, or that there's some conspiracy at hand to spread misinformation in place of facts. I'm sorry, but I'd rather leave those kinds of proceedings to the theists, so please leave science out of all your conspiracy theories, if you will.
[Image: 10314461_875206779161622_3907189760171701548_n.jpg]
Reply
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
Quote: Nothing is published in science without peer review and reproduced results.

And in religion...nothing is published with it!
Reply
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
(August 6, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote: Nothing is published in science without peer review and reproduced results.

And in religion...nothing is published with it!

And what can you possibly gain from such peer as might join in your religion?
Reply
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
Ever heard the phrase: One lies and the other swears to it?

Typical of religious assholes especially when you start tossing miracle stories around.
Reply
RE: Did They Not Pray Hard Enough
(August 6, 2013 at 3:25 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(August 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I dunno, ronedee. Three different people pointed out the flaw in your analogy. If we failed to understand, it's only because you failed to present something that could be understood the way you wanted it to.

Three people does not a jury make. [as I said to you before] That is why I don't like to use "analogies". But, it is handy...right Sasquach?

Analogies exemplify a relationship. One can criticize an analogy that purported relationship does not follow the factors given, or that it is apt to the discussion. The former describes our criticisms of your christian analogies. There is nothing wrong or inherently weak in discussing analogies, but you simply mustn't lose sight of the relationships that you are attempting to describe.

Your signature line states, "To the believer no explanation is necessary. To the unbeliever no explanation is possible."

I think this best highlights your frustration. With this comment you have forgotten that all christians were previously unbelievers who had been moved, usually by their trusted peers' propagandic comments, to believe.
We push christians to discuss what convinces them to believe in the old mid-eastern story.

If your signature line were true, there would be no christians in the first place.
Find the cure for Fundementia!
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims zwanzig 177 27652 June 9, 2021 at 11:14 am
Last Post: John 6IX Breezy
  Christians pray evil away on the winter solstice. brewer 9 1486 December 29, 2020 at 1:27 pm
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Xtians tried to pray Irma away drfuzzy 11 2961 September 12, 2017 at 6:37 pm
Last Post: Anomalocaris
  Why would this be so hard to have done? Astonished 25 9932 July 1, 2017 at 4:20 pm
Last Post: Astonished
  Jesus did not rise from the dead -- My debate opening statement. Jehanne 155 33875 January 21, 2017 at 1:28 am
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  How does "Science prove that the miracles of the Bible did not happen" ? Emzap 62 14445 November 4, 2016 at 2:05 am
Last Post: dyresand
  If they found Jesus' turd what would they do with it? Fake Messiah 64 9951 August 26, 2016 at 4:40 pm
Last Post: Losty
  Not enough to do anything about it, though. Minimalist 8 1943 May 31, 2016 at 8:00 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
  Jehovah's Witnesses 'did not report 1,000 abusers zebo-the-fat 22 6170 July 29, 2015 at 5:03 am
Last Post: robvalue
  How to prove Christianity is right without trying very hard Dystopia 6 4130 July 15, 2015 at 5:01 am
Last Post: Excited Penguin



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)