(September 9, 2013 at 7:36 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Well, the verse mentioned that getting saved is tough. And what's the opposite of being saved...?

(September 9, 2013 at 3:58 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(September 8, 2013 at 9:43 pm)Godschild Wrote: You're mistake here is, I'm trying to prove anything to you, I state what I know, take it as you want.

You state what you believe. You don't know anything you can't demonstrate, and you sure as hell can't demonstrate any of this crap.

Quote:Where does the bible say that a majority of humans will go to hell?

It's a simple numbers game: the bible says that the way to heaven is through belief in Jesus, and that the unforgivable sin is not believing. The majority of the world is not christian, and therefore the majority of the world is going to hell.

Not to mention all those in the past that couldn't have known this stuff (and a more uncharitable part of me wants to remind us all of the thriving civilizations that existed even before god apparently created the world) and the ones who are yet to come, when this religion is just another footnote and collection of curious stories in the future... They'll know but won't believe. Hellbound.

(September 9, 2013 at 7:39 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: I'll go to the Christian hell. Just please, please, don't put me in one of the Buddhist hells. They're fucking insane.

(September 9, 2013 at 9:28 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(September 9, 2013 at 7:39 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: I'll go to the Christian hell. Just please, please, don't put me in one of the Buddhist hells. They're fucking insane.

Actually you might prefer the Buddhist hell since it's not real, the place and punishment God has prepared for the lost is much worse than the hell of fire most believe it is.

GC

(September 9, 2013 at 9:40 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:

(September 9, 2013 at 9:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: Actually you might prefer the Buddhist hell since it's not real, the place and punishment God has prepared for the lost is much worse than the hell of fire most believe it is.

GC

I giggled at the irony.

(September 9, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Max_Kolbe Wrote: Where does the Bible say that the way to heaven is through belief in Jesus and where does it say that the unforgivable sin is not believing?

(September 10, 2013 at 3:26 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(September 9, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Max_Kolbe Wrote: Where does the Bible say that the way to heaven is through belief in Jesus and where does it say that the unforgivable sin is not believing?

How come I've read the bible more than you?

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10

Seems pretty clear to me.

(September 10, 2013 at 9:02 am)Max_Kolbe Wrote: 2 John 7 doesn't mention that the way to heaven is through belief in Jesus or that the unforgivable sin is not believing? You may interpret it that way, but it does not say that.

Dt. Doesn't mention Jesus.

Quote:What evidence do you have that you have read the bible more than me? I've never even said I've read the bible. Shouldn't our answers be based on clear, sound, provable evidence?