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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 4:58 pm
(August 21, 2013 at 4:09 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: As I said, GC, the antonym of "abomination" is not natural. Why is this? Because "abomination" doesn't mean unnatural. Therefore, when your bible labels homosexual acts as an abomination, it's not calling it unnatural. God is just saying he hates it. Yes, that's what abomination means, so no need to go getting your panties in a twist about this revelation.
So now that we have that taken care of, what's your secular reasoning for believing homosexuality is unnatural, because you certainly couldn't have gotten this idea from your god.
Apparently you did not read the verses I gave, again you will ignore what I write for one reason only so you can win and look like the big kid on the block, you're pathetic.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 5:06 pm
I'm talking about Leviticus. What are you talking about?
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 6:07 pm
(August 21, 2013 at 1:52 pm)Godschild Wrote: Both are true, before I was a Christian I saw it as unnatural and it is, after becoming a Christian my belief was further supported by what God says as the Creator. Evidence then more, simple really, at least for those who seek truth.
You claim it's natural yet I see no proof of your claim, not even an opinion other than it's natural.
So, what is your evidence for regarding it as unnatural w/o appealing to Christianity?
Others have already given you evidence as to why it is natural and your only response has been to appeal to your religious text.
And given that you haven't addressed any of my other arguments, I assume you concede them.
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 6:15 pm
Homosexuality is far more prevalent in the animal kingdom than religion. Which one is unnatural, again?
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 7:54 pm
(August 20, 2013 at 8:11 am)Esquilax Wrote: (August 20, 2013 at 7:30 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Jason Statham: he is THE alpha male...but that doesn't mean I want him to buttfuck me.
At least take him to dinner first. Who knows, he might be the bottom; people are surprising.  And also, anal sex is not the only component of homosexuality, so hey. 
So does the top aways pay for dinner or do they split the check?
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 7:58 pm
I think cultural male-female norms are out the window with the suggested scenario. . Hell, even my wife and I switch off on paying the bill. (Not to mention I'm not always the one on top.)
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 8:03 pm
@GC, I called you ignorant. That's a statement of fact. That's because you keep claiming homosexuality is unnatural, that's an incorrect statement. You can think I'm stupid all you like, that's just your opinion and honestly, I don't value it. Show me proof that it's unnatural, ooops, you can't. And anyone who owns a computer and has access to google knows I'm right and you're wrong.
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 8:39 pm
(August 21, 2013 at 7:54 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: So does the top aways pay for dinner or do they split the check?
Top pays for dinner. Bottom splits the cheeks.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 9:02 pm
I'm still waiting for GC to give his justification for why being against homosexuality allows him to deny homosexuals the right to marry. And he must do so without quoting scripture, because he said he would be against it even if he wasn't a Christian.
How about it, GC?
And remember, cite sources when necessary.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: "Homosexuality is a choice" and its paradox
August 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Because, as I saw it mentioned elsewhere today, "religious liberteez are naturally superior to both (1) any American law you care to mention and (2) the civil rights of everyone who is not you. "
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