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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 12:23 pm
(August 9, 2013 at 12:15 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Makes me wonder.. I got really drunk once and fucked a half-greek guy on my cousin's bathroom floor. I thought it was just fucking, he wanted more, and made me regret it. But did I say it was rape, just because I was drunk and couldn't read the signals? No. Really, what's the big deal if you have sex while drunk? Shit happens when you party naked.
See, that's the problem I'm having: it's hard to tell exactly what the fuck went on in this specific case, because the entire incident has been boiled down to a few sentences, yet still played out like it's some huge dramabomb.
So the "coercive element" was alcohol: to what extent? Was it only the one of them? How was this alcohol being plied? There are deets we could have been given here without identifying the person involved, and frankly if I was going to name a person and throw an accusation like that into the public square I'd want to be damn sure of my information and also present it in as transparent a way as possible, while keeping in confidence the identity of the victim.
But that doesn't seem to be the narrative PZ wants to portray, although I did notice he spent a noticeable length of time before imparting this heavy, empathy stirring news about another person, talking about himself.
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 12:33 pm
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Quote:At a conference, Mr. Shermer coerced me into a position where I could not consent, and then had sex with me.
According to this quote, it wasn't that she was intoxicated to the point of not being able to consent. She was saying he coerced her into that intoxicated state. I can't imagine how, unless he force-fed her alcohol.
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Why is it that assholes always have a problem with sex?
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm
(August 9, 2013 at 12:36 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Why is it that assholes always have a problem with sex?
They get sore if you don't use enough lube?
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm
I've been pretty drunk, but I still had the ability to say no. I would have to be like blackout drunk not to be able to say no. If you drink that much, that's on you.
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 12:40 pm
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(August 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm)Red Celt Wrote: This is The Atheism+ Block Bot list (as featured so appallingly on BBC's Newsnight this week).
I'm in there. Only level 3, though. Must try harder.
Apparently, to get your name off the list, you need to make an appeal in the Atheism+ forum... which pre-blocks suspected non-A-plussers. So, good luck with that.
Shit like this makes me happy that so many people think atheism+ and its members are dick heads.
Seems as though their bigoted and hypocritical nature is doing more to unify atheists and theists than any rational argument ever could.
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 12:42 pm
I dont need to say no when drunk, I simply cant have sex when drunk. I always insist on her being on top and then fall asleep when 10 minutes into it.
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm
I couldn't rape anyone sober. Drunk? My cock does not work when I'm drunk. Also, I usually get into the most weird bar brawls when I'm drunk, that is why I refrain from the firewater.
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 2:12 pm
(August 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm)Red Celt Wrote: This is The Atheism+ Block Bot list (as featured so appallingly on BBC's Newsnight this week).
I'm in there. Only level 3, though. Must try harder.
Apparently, to get your name off the list, you need to make an appeal in the Atheism+ forum... which pre-blocks suspected non-A-plussers. So, good luck with that.
Well.. it's not as if I needed one, but I've just had a fresh reminder as to why I want nothing to do with those asshats over at A+.
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RE: Free(from)ThoughtBlogs
August 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Now I understand why A+ is generally frowned-upon, but my previous lack of understanding was due to previous fucks not really given.
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