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RE: Hell
Ah, so your apparent shock was a satirical joke? Smile

Quote:So far you have failed to defend your position on belief at all I notice.
How do you mean...?
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Indeed it was C

You've never explained your position (although of course existentialism naturally dismisses itself). You seem to refuse to do so, and dodge any attempt that anyone makes to understand. You constantly slate theism which seems unfair that you won't stand up to the plate and ever account for yourself.
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Dismisses itself? It grants that it may in fact be wrong, and is always willing to entertain an idea. Smile That, to me at least, is humble and logical. I actually think I am always explaining my position. Smile

Quote:You seem to refuse to do so, and dodge any attempt that anyone makes to understand.
Actually, I understand people quite often. I tend to second them in such cases (usually adding something, however minor), or otherwise give them a thumbs up... or usually in some way show my understanding. If something is so 'obvious'... then why don't I 'get' it? Carl Sagan got it right on the button when he said that 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'... but it must be understood that everyone's view of 'extraordinary' is subjective. Hence why you can believe Christianity, and why I can be skeptical of 'obvious things' like .9^ = 1. If the reason was good enough for you, and you are now telling it to me... one needs to realize that the reason may be more than enough for me... or far from enough for me.

I don't see where I've 'dodged' without a damned good explanation (so far as I see anyway)... and I don't remember ever failing to show up at the bat (once again, without cited good reason). Of course I constantly slate theism... and I am constantly defending my criticisms of theism of all sorts (wether they are accepted or not). Unless I have been commonly possessed by a mad scientist from his secret laboratory 5000 kilo's away: I think my criticisms are usually quite fair.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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He is just one of gods "special people" . Joke

Seriously, there are times where you reject lojic in favour of pseudologic, probably unintentionally, as some concepts are hard to understand for people, that is one of the reasons rekigion still exists.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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I don't doubt that at times i've been stupid... but I do doubt that I have been so a majority of the time Smile
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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Not a majority, of course not, but is does happen just often enough to be annoying.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" - P.J. O'Rourke

"Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't." - Margaret Thatcher

"Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success." - Christopher Lasch

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(October 21, 2009 at 8:40 pm)AngelaRachnid Wrote: Why is it that when parasites and other nasty creatures get mentioned (which god made) do the fundis do a runner? is it the one place where they realise that god does not exist?

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Parasites are just a produce of evolution, its the way the world works. Of course I dont consider myself a fundy, which would make it much harder to explain Tongue
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(October 24, 2009 at 2:50 pm)solarwave Wrote:
(October 21, 2009 at 8:40 pm)AngelaRachnid Wrote: Why is it that when parasites and other nasty creatures get mentioned (which god made) do the fundis do a runner? is it the one place where they realise that god does not exist?

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Parasites are just a produce of evolution, its the way the world works. Of course I dont consider myself a fundy, which would make it much harder to explain Tongue

Fundamentalists explain parasites and all the other undesirable features of the world (evil being the biggest) in terms of "The Fall", I think.

I don't know who AR talks to, but they sound like stage props. Wouldn't it be something if someone could explain evil, but ran when confronted with mosquitoes or gnats...
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Yh I suppose they would say the parasites weren't parasites before the fall.
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."

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(October 24, 2009 at 3:13 pm)ecolox Wrote:
(October 24, 2009 at 2:50 pm)solarwave Wrote:
(October 21, 2009 at 8:40 pm)AngelaRachnid Wrote: Why is it that when parasites and other nasty creatures get mentioned (which god made) do the fundis do a runner? is it the one place where they realise that god does not exist?

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Parasites are just a produce of evolution, its the way the world works. Of course I dont consider myself a fundy, which would make it much harder to explain Tongue

Fundamentalists explain parasites and all the other undesirable features of the world (evil being the biggest) in terms of "The Fall", I think.

I don't know who AR talks to, but they sound like stage props. Wouldn't it be something if someone could explain evil, but ran when confronted with mosquitoes or gnats...

The Fall, late 70s punk band, not bad but bland, so it was something the punks made up?

If by AR you mean me, would you have preferred if i had started with " why is the nasty pussy woosy chasing the stripey wipey horsey" or just come straight to the point?

Not stage props cant be arsed beating around the bush so come straight to the point, so yes please as a christian please tell me why your loving god made all those twisted sadistic life forms? why did he invent a worm that eats childrens eyes? (sorry the answer is pretty straight forward as it says in the bible " let the little children suffer before they come unto me"), mosquitoes or gnats (same thing near enough, both basicly Tipulids), yes but why invent these? to carry the nasty little viruses like malaria and denge fever?, the Ichneumonidae the Diptera parasitica such as bot flies, please i am curious why did your loving god make these?

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(October 24, 2009 at 2:50 pm)solarwave Wrote:
(October 21, 2009 at 8:40 pm)AngelaRachnid Wrote: Why is it that when parasites and other nasty creatures get mentioned (which god made) do the fundis do a runner? is it the one place where they realise that god does not exist?

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Parasites are just a produce of evolution, its the way the world works. Of course I dont consider myself a fundy, which would make it much harder to explain Tongue

A christian who follows evolution, do i it take it you are more akin to the creationists or ID brigade?

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