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Why would Satan want souls? What use are they to him?
#11
RE: Why would Satan want souls? What use are they to him?
He sees them as trophies, and he doesn't want to be alone for eternal punishment. He will do everything he can to try and hurt God.

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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#12
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Did anyone here every try to sell his or her "soul"?

I sure would take some money for it, when else would I get the chance to sell nothing for cash.
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#13
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Hey, TGaC, want to buy my soul?

We have it on clearance right now. Originally $666, now for only 5 easy payments of $133!!!
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#14
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(August 24, 2013 at 5:03 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Did anyone here every try to sell his or her "soul"?

About 4/5 times at school. It was usually worth whatever crap somebody had that I wanted. Shoe laces, pens and sometimes food.
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#15
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I sold my soul to become a famous writer. It did not work.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#16
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(August 24, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Godschild Wrote: He sees them as trophies, and he doesn't want to be alone for eternal punishment. He will do everything he can to try and hurt God.

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Seeing as Satan is supernatural as well, and not a complete idiot, he would know that he has already lost and would already know the fate that supposedly awaits him, So why make it worse for others? What's his motive?
How could having company comfort him in any way, since hell is supposedly the worst possible place, no company of screaming mortals would help him in any way. It would be like being on a plane of screaming young children, it would make his pain worse not better.

If you and I were in a feud and you sent people over to me that didn't accept you or love you, why would I feel ill will towards them? They are on my side and I would want the best for them, not try to play your prison warden for you. It doesn't make sense.

Secondly, Is satan in hell right now? Being tortured? If so, how can he think over the pain, to give a gnat's ass about whats going on on earth?
If he likes it there and it's not torture, then why does the bible make such a big deal about sending him there?

Lastly, do any of you theists still believe in the "Harrowing of Hell" story?
What was that all about and why is it not universal christian canon?
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#17
RE: Why would Satan want souls? What use are they to him?
(August 24, 2013 at 4:46 pm)Walking Void Wrote: ^

It must be nice to be referred to as Mr. Satan.

He never played for my team so it was always "Satan, you pussy!"
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(August 24, 2013 at 6:53 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Seeing as Satan is supernatural as well, and not a complete idiot, he would know that he has already lost and would already know the fate that supposedly awaits him, So why make it worse for others? What's his motive?
How could having company comfort him in any way, since hell is supposedly the worst possible place, no company of screaming mortals would help him in any way. It would be like being on a plane of screaming young children, it would make his pain worse not better.

If you and I were in a feud and you sent people over to me that didn't accept you or love you, why would I feel ill will towards them? They are on my side and I would want the best for them, not try to play your prison warden for you. It doesn't make sense.

Secondly, Is satan in hell right now? Being tortured? If so, how can he think over the pain, to give a gnat's ass about whats going on on earth?
If he likes it there and it's not torture, then why does the bible make such a big deal about sending him there?

Lastly, do any of you theists still believe in the "Harrowing of Hell" story?
What was that all about and why is it not universal christian canon?

First and foremost...Satan is all ego & lies. He believes he can take all souls for himself and deny God. You see, we have freedom of choice! So, he thinks that he will change the outcome...even though he knows the outcome! Plus...misery loves company. Remember, Satan doesn't know what love is. Nor mercy or forgiveness. Those gifts play into our salvation, which doesn't make any sense to him.

He's like us in our negative ways. We will try anything to change things in the face of reality! Even when we know it won't help the outcome! Its our human nature.... the fallible one! But, if we rely on God for strength and answers, things always workout fine!

Secondly, Satan is not confined to hell. He is free to roam the earth. Jesus calls him: "the ruler of this world." Satan is able to "offer" his control over worldly things in exchange for you Worshipping him instead of God. But Satan's time and choice has an expiration. Gods' doesn't!

Keep in mind, this isn't about us. This is about Satan taking what is God's.

Your 3rd question means nothing at all. At least to me. They recently removed it from the Creed.
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#19
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If Satan was real, he'd be like that one friend who always gets you in trouble, but itd be okay because he always throws hot parties.
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#20
RE: Why would Satan want souls? What use are they to him?
(August 24, 2013 at 7:31 pm)ronedee Wrote: First and foremost...Satan is all ego & lies. He believes he can take all souls for himself and deny God. You see, we have freedom of choice! So, he thinks that he will change the outcome...even though he knows the outcome! Plus...misery loves company. Remember, Satan doesn't know what love is. Nor mercy or forgiveness. Those gifts play into our salvation, which doesn't make any sense to him.
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Secondly, Satan is not confined to hell. He is free to roam the earth. Jesus calls him: "the ruler of this world." Satan is able to "offer" his control over worldly things in exchange for you Worshipping him instead of God. But Satan's time and choice has an expiration. Gods' doesn't!

Keep in mind, this isn't about us. This is about Satan taking what is God's.

Your 3rd question means nothing at all. At least to me. They recently removed it from the Creed.
The claim that satan is all lies and ego is not substantiated, as he tells the truth in Genesis where god lied about Adam's fate. Furthermore, all you have is god's claim that he is a liar, you have no independent evidence of this or even of his existence. Why were no words of satan quoted in the bible? The diatribes against satan sound like a catty school girl rantings about a rival, no factual evidentiary statements at all.

Secondly, do you have any clear biblical statements that Satan is heartless and without mercy? It's full of deceiver and liar claims, but that's all I remember.

"take all souls for himself and deny God." Deny god? Deny that he exists? Deny god who even made satan himself? God could make an infinite supply of souls for himself. It would be impossible for satan to deny an all powerful god anything, and unless satan is an imbecile, he would already know this.

Lastly, " They recently removed it (the harrowing of hell story) from the Creed." So they admitted it was wrong? They admitted that it was made up by some religious nut? Why what was his motive and how was his motive different from all the other writers of the gospels?

It is good that they are admitting that these stories are bullshit, even if it is slowly, one at a time.
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