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Trinity
#31
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 6:36 am)Godschild Wrote:
(August 25, 2013 at 9:16 am)Brakeman Wrote: Ah but so much more remains unanswered. Why did god keep his son and the holy spirit ghost secret for 4000 years, all through the old testament, only to add new characters in his latest book?

He did not the OT is about the coming of Christ.

Really? Any unbiased reader and millions of Jews would strongly disagree with that statement.

Is "Gone with the wind" about the coming life story of Rosa Parks because it happened before that time and had racist whites and some black people in it?
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#32
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(August 28, 2013 at 6:36 am)Godschild Wrote: He did not the OT is about the coming of Christ.

Really? Any unbiased reader and millions of Jews would strongly disagree with that statement.

Is "Gone with the wind" about the coming life story of Rosa Parks because it happened before that time and had racist whites and some black people in it?

If the OT is not about the coming of Christ then how did the Israelites know He was coming, they were in great anticipation of His coming, please give references to where their knowledge of Him came from.

Smile GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#33
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 6:36 am)Godschild Wrote: 100 senators =1 Senate

Except that fails as an analogy, because each one of those senators is not equal to the senate.

Jesus = god
god the father = god
Holy Spirit = god

1 Senator ≠ Senate
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#34
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 1:15 am)old man Wrote: In order to begin to see and understand the truth and the meaning of truth we must first be prepared to face up to the truth about ourselves.

Do you agree with what I wrote concerning our mental state Brakeman or not?

If not, can you tell me what the first sentence is that you cannot agree with and then explain why you disagree with it?




Pride has the ability to convince a man he is better than he is when he compares himself to certain others. This pride allows him and causes him at times to regard those others with disrespect, even contempt. From such a mindset it becomes easy to dismiss the true word of others as being irrelevant, unimportant or untrue whenever their statements are seen to conflict with any of his own selfish or self-important desires and plans. Whilst his pride is in control it becomes easy for him to cheat on and lie to anyone who he does not care for, especially those who he assesses as being less important or inferior to himself. As much as he is ready to ignore the truth and deceive others for his own gain, so he becomes equally ready to ignore the truth and deceive himself into thinking how good and right he is. The half-truths and lies of others are then easily welcomed by him as absolute truth whenever they feed and reinforce his feeling of superiority and pleasure. For as much as his self first desires become his needs, so also does his cravings for more leave him more vulnerable and subject to the temptations and corruption of those most crafty and evil. Their lies become more easily accepted by him as truth and therefore become more easily woven into his memory as truth.

From such lie infested memories are man's decisions and judgements too often formed. Whatever is being reasoned and perceived as truth and reality to all who have been corrupted by pride then is all too often an illusion. This state of mind is to some degree the inherited scourge of us all, breeding contempt and hatred for the truth along with paranoia, conflict, killing and destruction, just as the history of man will clearly testify.

Hey old man, I replied to this passage in your introductions thread, I don't know if you missed it. But I've quoted it and here it is in full:
(August 20, 2013 at 4:09 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: @old man, there are so many things wrong with that passage I don't even know where to start. But to begin with, your first sentence. Prove that.

Is it pride or is it reality that allows us to compare ourselves to others and form conclusions? Is it not an important skill that allows us to work with others and measure up our enemies? If I believe I'm a better scientist than a friend of mine who's doing a business degree, am I being prideful or am I being honest? Without this ability to discern others' how am I to make decisions everyday? Is it prideful of me to dismiss a witch doctor's advice when I'm sick because it doesn't comply with my existing knowledge about medicine? Or is it just common sense?
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#35
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 3:02 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(August 28, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Really? Any unbiased reader and millions of Jews would strongly disagree with that statement.

Is "Gone with the wind" about the coming life story of Rosa Parks because it happened before that time and had racist whites and some black people in it?

If the OT is not about the coming of Christ then how did the Israelites know He was coming, they were in great anticipation of His coming, please give references to where their knowledge of Him came from.

Smile GC


The "Israelites" were awaiting the coming of the "Moschiach" - and he didn't show up either.

Stop telling jews how to be jews. You have more than enough trouble with your own horseshit.
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#36
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(August 28, 2013 at 6:36 am)Godschild Wrote: 100 senators =1 Senate

Except that fails as an analogy, because each one of those senators is not equal to the senate.

Jesus = god
god the father = god
Holy Spirit = god

1 Senator ≠ Senate

If one were missing it would not be the same God.

Smile GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#37
RE: Trinity
God seems to accomplish even less than the senate.
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#38
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: If one were missing it would not be the same God.

Smile GC

So he's like incomplete without Jesus? 'Only' a quirky Jewish demigod pre 0 CE?
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#39
RE: Trinity
(August 28, 2013 at 4:48 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote:
(August 28, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: If one were missing it would not be the same God.

Smile GC

So he's like incomplete without Jesus? 'Only' a quirky Jewish demigod pre 0 CE?

Go read the Bible, Jesus is the creator, the Holy Spirit was active in creation, the creation was spoken into existence by the Father, God as the Trinity has always existed.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#40
RE: Trinity
If the trinity has always existed, why didn't the pre-Jesus Jews know about it? Why is the Holy Ghost suddenly active in the lives of believers when John started Baptizing people? Why did he suddenly decide baptism was necessary? Jews didn't seem too concerned with it before. How do you know there are only three emanations of god? Why cant there be four? The Holy Quad sounds much cooler than "Trinity". Does Moses' burning bush not count?
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