Trinity

[Bad Writer]

If the Holy Ghost of the Bible is just god in a spirit form, then why do the authors go to great lengths to distinguish it from the guy on high? What's the difference between saying "the Holy Spirit" dwelt in him and "god dwelt in him"?

[Minimalist]

Actually your boy never claims to be god. The closest he gets - and for this one has to accept the shit written in your gospels - is in gjohn - worst of the 4 for silliness - where he equates himself to god.

Have you ever read this shit? Doesn't seem like it.

Your godboy calls himself the "son of man." Which seems like a huge step down. Fuck. I'm the son of man and you know what I think of your bullshit.

He called himself Son of Man to show that He was both God and man, Christ also said He and the Father were one, seems rather clear to those who can see.

GC

25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[c]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

--john 10

The repeated references to "my father" and then the spurious claim that he and the father are "one" seem contradictory. However, one thing is crystal clear. YOU are one of the sheep.

Of course, when he's hanging on the cross he says - in one version - "Father why have you forsaken me?" You would have us read that as:

"Me - why have I forsaken me?" Sounds pretty silly but it never takes much to impress a xtian.

[Tonus]

Even more notable are the verses that follow.

31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” 33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ’d ? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”

You wind up with a confusing mish-mash of claims, that can be produced out-of-context to "prove" pretty much anything about Jesus and god. The Jews accuse him of claiming to "be god." Jesus' reply seems to acknowledge that he is not claiming to be god, by pointing out that the word is also used to describe mere mortals, and clarifies his stance by re-interpreting his own statement to read "I am god's son." He ends with the cryptic statement that the father is "in him" (I can imagine that this part sends chills up the spine of many a Catholic priest) and he is in the father. Reading it gives the distinct impression that Jesus recognizes god as a separate individual, greater than himself.

[Minimalist]

Hercules was the "son" of a god and a mortal, too. Big fucking hairy deal.

A common literary motif in antiquity.

[Bad Writer]

I'd like to see Jesus try and accomplish all that Hercules did in the accounts of his lifetime. If ever there was a savior of mythical proportions, it would be Hercules.

[Minimalist]

Hercules had some smart Greek writers. Jesus had a bunch of pussy xtians. No contest.

[FifthElement]

[Godscreated]

Go read the Bible, Jesus is the creator, the Holy Spirit was active in creation, the creation was spoken into existence by the Father, God as the Trinity has always existed.

Where is your evidence?

You are another broken record, go skip somewhere else.

GC

[Minimalist]

Says the man who has no evidence beyond his stupid fucking bible.

You are truly representative of the pathetic, G-C.

[Godscreated]