Where is god now?

[Faith No More]

The Holy Spirit was poured out on us in Acts 2. 'We' having been washed in the blood of Christ are simply able to receive the blessing of God directly.

That's not a "why" that's a "what".

So, I'll ask again. Why the change?

[Drich]

UnChanging God refers to God's Nature, and Law.

Forgive me, aren't you the one who told me in the past that god's law did change, and that's why we don't have to follow certain old testament commands anymore?

Given this, isn't the new testament a very definite change to the law?

God's law did not change. The law still stands. What changed is the way we obtain righteousness. (the right or ablity to be with God.) Every letter of the law is still in effect. For those who stand without the attonement christ offers, they will be judged by the law. For those who are under the attonement Christ offers, they are no longer required to follow the law as the way to obtain righteousness before God. Even though the Law still stands.

It's like being a diplomat in the Movies. Appearently Diplomats in movies can do whatever they like and are immune to prosecution by the law of the land, even though everyone else in that community is still under the law of the land. When one becomes a Beleiver in Christ he becomes a 'Diplomat.' of sorts.

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The Holy Spirit was poured out on us in Acts 2. 'We' having been washed in the blood of Christ are simply able to receive the blessing of God directly.

That's not a "why" that's a "what".

So, I'll ask again. Why the change?

If you remember in the first part of Genesis, God spent time with Adam daily, walking and talking with Him. Then Adam's sin seperated Him from God, and every subsequent generation after as man's wickedness God worse the chasm between Man and God grew deeper and deeper. Then Christ died to close that Gap. (So once again God/Holy Spirit of God) can directly Commune with God.

The 'change' was the first step in putting back God's orginal design

[Faith No More]

If you remember in the first part of Genesis, God spent time with Adam daily, walking and talking with Him. Then Adam's sin seperated Him from God, and every subsequent generation after as man's wickedness God worse the chasm between Man and God grew deeper and deeper. Then Christ died to close that Gap. (So once again God/Holy Spirit of God) can directly Commune with God.

The 'change' was the first step in putting back God's orginal design

I thought we were talking about why in the OT objects were the focus of god's blessings and in the NT people were the focus, not how to achieve atonement.

Or am I missing something?

[Drich]

If you remember in the first part of Genesis, God spent time with Adam daily, walking and talking with Him. Then Adam's sin seperated Him from God, and every subsequent generation after as man's wickedness God worse the chasm between Man and God grew deeper and deeper. Then Christ died to close that Gap. (So once again God/Holy Spirit of God) can directly Commune with God.

The 'change' was the first step in putting back God's orginal design

I thought we were talking about why in the OT objects were the focus of god's blessings and in the NT people were the focus, not how to achieve atonement.

Or am I missing something?

You asked why did God stop blessing objects. I orginally said that 'we' could not take the full measure of God's blessing till Christ died for us and made us pure. Now that we have been made pure through Christ's attonement we can directly receive the blessing of God through the Holy Spirit. You then asked why the change. i said it was not a change to something different but a return to direct communion God shared with Man in the Garden.

So what is your question again?

[Faith No More]

So what is your question again?

You just answered it.

[Brakeman]

In order that the new testament people would not get fried in his presence, god had to learn to control his brilliant essence, in other words?

No. Again God did not Change, God simply 'fried' Christ instead of the NT believer.

Non-sequitur , First, humans could not see god because god would fry them with his brilliance, unless he was sweaty and naked like Abraham who could then homo-wrestle with god all night long.

Then, Bang, according to Drich, God did not change. Jesus' mother Mary must have been a bit "manly" like Abraham so she didn't get fried, if you know what I mean..

[themonkeyman]

Why the change?

The Holy Spirit was poured out on us in Acts 2. 'We' having been washed in the blood of Christ are simply able to receive the blessing of God directly.

Washed in blood sounds a bit sick why not washed in Light. Common have you been to an A&E Department and seen someones blood would you like to have a bath in it!

[Brakeman]

You asked why did God stop blessing objects. I orginally said that 'we' could not take the full measure of God's blessing till Christ died for us and made us pure. Now that we have been made pure through Christ's attonement we can directly receive the blessing of God through the Holy Spirit. You then asked why the change. i said it was not a change to something different but a return to direct communion God shared with Man in the Garden.

So what is your question again?

So we are pure now are we? Explain to us what the qualities of this purity are. What were we contaminated with before that we are no longer contaminated with?

Secondly, a return is to go from one place to another, which is a change.
All changes are to something different. Quit dancing around it and spit it out, plainly.

[Minimalist]

When the R/C church set out to coonvert the pagan world alot of compromise too place.

Do you ever know what you are talking about?

The Edict of Thessalonica, 380.

EMPERORS GRATIAN, VALENTINIAN AND THEODOSIUS AUGUSTI. EDICT TO THE PEOPLE OF CONSTANTINOPLE.
It is our desire that all the various nations which are subject to our Clemency and Moderation, should continue to profess that religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter, as it has been preserved by faithful tradition, and which is now professed by the Pontiff Damasus and by Peter, Bishop of Alexandria, a man of apostolic holiness. According to the apostolic teaching and the doctrine of the Gospel, let us believe in the one deity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, in equal majesty and in a holy Trinity. We authorize the followers of this law to assume the title of Catholic Christians; but as for the others, since, in our judgment they are foolish madmen, we decree that they shall be branded with the ignominious name of heretics, and shall not presume to give to their conventicles the name of churches. They will suffer in the first place the chastisement of the divine condemnation and in the second the punishment of our authority which in accordance with the will of Heaven we shall decide to inflict.
GIVEN IN THESSALONICA ON THE THIRD DAY FROM THE CALENDS OF MARCH, DURING THE FIFTH CONSULATE OF GRATIAN AUGUSTUS AND FIRST OF THEODOSIUS AUGUSTUS[3]
—Codex Theodosianus, xvi.1.2

Your fucking bullshit religion was imposed by force - not compromise.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So where is he and why is he invisible and undetectable?

Innit interesting how much the 'invisible and undetectable' resembles the 'nonexistant'?

Boru