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Highest up former theist?
September 19, 2013 at 2:34 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2013 at 2:35 pm by Brian37.)
We hear stories all the time of leaving religion, all of them. Even former leaders of churches are now selling books on the atheist circuit. And some are closet atheists.
BUT, whatever religion especially Christianity, Catholic, Mormon, or Muslim or Jew. I am not talking about local and small leaders. I mean highest up the chain of power in those clubs.
Who is the highest up the chain you are aware of beyond local leaders?
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 19, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Lots of Jews are athiests. Mordecai Kaplan, the founder of Reconstructionist Judaism, is likely a candidate. There may be better examples, admittedly.
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 19, 2013 at 7:46 pm
All of the dead ones.
Yeah, I'm feeling snarky. Why do you ask?
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 19, 2013 at 8:19 pm
Pope Frank, depending on who you ask.
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 21, 2013 at 2:19 pm
(September 19, 2013 at 8:19 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Pope Frank, depending on who you ask.
I have the feeling someone is going to shut him up soon.
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 21, 2013 at 2:35 pm
According to certain fundie wingnuts, atheism is a religion wherein each atheist is his own god. As a lifelong atheist, I am essentially the god of that religion, or one of them. Does that count?
I think that counts.
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 22, 2013 at 2:56 am
(September 21, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: According to certain fundie wingnuts, atheism is a religion wherein each atheist is his own god. As a lifelong atheist, I am essentially the god of that religion, or one of them. Does that count?
I think that counts.
Well, I've been in a lot of forums with the religious. It's pretty safe to say that NONE of them believe in the same things, so they're all atheists in one form or another.
Some believe every word of the bible. Others believe that some of the stories are fictional, but inspirational. Some don't believe in the Old Testament at all. Some think that god looks like us. Some believe that god has no form. Some believe that god intervenes on our behalf from time to time, while others think that god kickstarted then universe and walked away.
It's hard to fathom how religions even got off the ground - must've been a miracle.
There is an ALLLL-knowing, ALLLL-powerful, inVISible being who is everywhere, who created the WHOLE universe, who lives in another dimension called heaven, who is perfect in every way, who was never born and will never die, and who watches you every minute of every day (even when you're squeezing one out on the toilet). There are also unicorns, leprechauns, Santa Claus, an Easter Bunny, and a giant purple people eater.
JUST BELIEVE IT!
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 26, 2013 at 2:18 am
Would the pope count as I don't think frankie is a Christian.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 26, 2013 at 7:11 am
(September 21, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: According to certain fundie wingnuts, atheism is a religion wherein each atheist is his own god. As a lifelong atheist, I am essentially the god of that religion, or one of them. Does that count?
I think that counts.
I hate that argument from theists "If you say there is no god, that makes you a god".
Think about that theists. If there is no such thing as a god, then how can a human be one? There are no god/s AND HUMANS ARE NOT GODS EITHER.
They always forget that option.
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RE: Highest up former theist?
September 26, 2013 at 8:49 am
(September 26, 2013 at 2:18 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Would the pope count as I don't think frankie is a Christian.
No, he's not because he's concerned for the poor and says to not worry about gays and abortion. We all know that to be a true Christian you have to be upset over abortion, gay marriage, and to shit on the poor.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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