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If these resident theists really talk to god..
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
I got a new bible. I read it everyday. I CANNOT believe that people believe this STUPID shit.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
Generally, the ones who believe it most have read it the least. They are usually the same ones who buy the lies that the preachers sell them, mainly because it's easier to have an opinion if it comes pre-chewed.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 24, 2013 at 6:17 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 24, 2013 at 5:48 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I've never been one to complain about people not replying to me. Or one to refrain from commenting just because I don't spend the weekend on the internet.

This all happened today.

Then why are you whining about me commenting? Oh, wait. Nevermind. I think I know.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 24, 2013 at 8:03 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: I got a new bible. I read it everyday.

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Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 24, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Airyaman Wrote: If mods banned theists that preached on sites like these, we'd just be atheists talking to each other.

Could be worse...I could not be here. Let's face it, I'm as much excitement as most members can handle!

*Yawns, puts down phone and continues trimming ear hairs*
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 24, 2013 at 6:17 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 24, 2013 at 6:17 pm)Waratah Wrote: You are lying. I pointed out to you that there was no seeking and knocking in the parable.
This is what you continually choose to ignore:

The only qualifier to receive the holy spirit is to ask. Not a/s/k.

I did acknowledge your arguments.

The conversation ended because you could not refute my claims.

If you can refute my claims then by all means go back to the thread and do so.
Again On the PAGE CHRIST THE ONE WHO TELLS THE PARABLE SAYS TO SEEK AND KNOCK!!!!!

You can scream all you want, still does not change the fact that you are a liar. Yes I did notice that you did not challenge that claim via a good argument. Did you stamp your feet a lot as a kid?

It says if you want to RECEIVE the holy spirit you must ask. Not seek or knock. Please show me where the seeking and knocking is needed in the receiving of the holy spirit.

It also says on the page that if a son asks for ..... would you give him ..... as the father. Does this mean that if you are a father but your children are dead that you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

Does the son have to ask for bread, fish or egg for you to receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

What if you do not know how to give good gifts. Does this mean you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

I hope that I have shown that just because it is on the page does not automatically make it important to RECEIVE the holy spirit.

What about your assertion that the parable is talking about a neighbour and not a friend. To me this is a clear indication that your comprehension skills are lacking or that you see things which are not there, you just want it to be there. Which is it a neighbour or a friend?
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 24, 2013 at 11:25 pm)Waratah Wrote:
(September 24, 2013 at 6:17 pm)Drich Wrote: Again On the PAGE CHRIST THE ONE WHO TELLS THE PARABLE SAYS TO SEEK AND KNOCK!!!!!

You can scream all you want, still does not change the fact that you are a liar. Yes I did notice that you did not challenge that claim via a good argument. Did you stamp your feet a lot as a kid?

It says if you want to RECEIVE the holy spirit you must ask. Not seek or knock. Please show me where the seeking and knocking is needed in the receiving of the holy spirit.

It also says on the page that if a son asks for ..... would you give him ..... as the father. Does this mean that if you are a father but your children are dead that you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

Does the son have to ask for bread, fish or egg for you to receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

What if you do not know how to give good gifts. Does this mean you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

I hope that I have shown that just because it is on the page does not automatically make it important to RECEIVE the holy spirit.

What about your assertion that the parable is talking about a neighbour and not a friend. To me this is a clear indication that your comprehension skills are lacking or that you see things which are not there, you just want it to be there. Which is it a neighbour or a friend?
In order for your exegesis to be accurate you must account for all of the contextual elements in this parable or in the explaination Christ gives of the parable. your cherry picking, and ignoring 2/3 of the elements Christ contextually mentions. Because of this your exegesis and subsequent argument is invalid. Inorder to discuss this any further with any legitmacy, you must invalidate the seeking and knocking that Christ mentions using the context of scripture. otherwise your argument is again dismissed, for being an incomplete representation of everything mentioned in this passage that Christ Himself explains.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 25, 2013 at 12:12 am)Drich Wrote:
(September 24, 2013 at 11:25 pm)Waratah Wrote: You can scream all you want, still does not change the fact that you are a liar. Yes I did notice that you did not challenge that claim via a good argument. Did you stamp your feet a lot as a kid?

It says if you want to RECEIVE the holy spirit you must ask. Not seek or knock. Please show me where the seeking and knocking is needed in the receiving of the holy spirit.

It also says on the page that if a son asks for ..... would you give him ..... as the father. Does this mean that if you are a father but your children are dead that you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

Does the son have to ask for bread, fish or egg for you to receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

What if you do not know how to give good gifts. Does this mean you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

I hope that I have shown that just because it is on the page does not automatically make it important to RECEIVE the holy spirit.

What about your assertion that the parable is talking about a neighbour and not a friend. To me this is a clear indication that your comprehension skills are lacking or that you see things which are not there, you just want it to be there. Which is it a neighbour or a friend?
In order for your exegesis to be accurate you must account for all of the contextual elements in this parable or in the explaination Christ gives of the parable. your cherry picking, and ignoring 2/3 of the elements Christ contextually mentions. Because of this your exegesis and subsequent argument is invalid. Inorder to discuss this any further with any legitmacy, you must invalidate the seeking and knocking that Christ mentions using the context of scripture. otherwise your argument is again dismissed, for being an incomplete representation of everything mentioned in this passage that Christ Himself explains.
The whole idea was for me to receive some of the holy spirit for you to prove gods existence. Not to find anything or to open doors. It does not say for me to receive I must find something and then open a door. That is what you see, not what is there.

So you cannot show me where seeking and knocking is needed for god to give some of the holy spirit.

I have already shown where seeking in the story is not finding. Parable has no seeking in the context of finding whether it's neighbour or friend.

Just to let you know that asking a lot is NOT the same as knocking. Tiger Please tell me how many times must you ask for it to turn into a knock. ROFLOL

Still no answer about neighbour or friend, which is it?

Don't forget about the other questions I asked.

It also says on the page that if a son asks for ..... would you give him ..... as the father. Does this mean that if you are a father but your children are dead that you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

Does the son have to ask for bread, fish or egg for you to receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

What if you do not know how to give good gifts. Does this mean you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
Quote:In order for your exegesis to be accurate you must account for all of the contextual elements in this parable or in the explaination Christ gives of the parable.

And in order for your bullshit story to be true you would need evidence for it. You have none.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 24, 2013 at 6:10 pm)Drich Wrote: Preaching? No, One of you tried to say that I broke everysingle preaching rule you have, but can seem to get one to honestly stick to this situation..

And I still believe you broke the no preaching rule. 6/6 remember, and I backed it out with evidence in post #100.

But I liked what you did there, poisoning the well. How very christian.
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