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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 26, 2013 at 8:26 am
You're turning me on, Kay.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 26, 2013 at 9:10 am
At the risk of turning Tonus on, I too want to see these reports. Interesting how we're condemned for basing our decision on rules that don't exist (when that wasn't the case), while being similarly condemned for failing to act based on reports that actually don't exist. That's the real double standard here. Hanged if we do, hanged if we don't.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 26, 2013 at 10:28 am
I don't doubt that Drich has had some terrible shit said to him, but without the links, we can't understand the context in which these things were said. Much of the time these insults come after he says abominable things like wanting to pray for us to get cancer. His sliminess here wasn't in response to anything put forth towards him. It was just a cheap shot below the belt for Jesus.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 26, 2013 at 10:34 am
Exactly. The admin of another forum was very fond of the following analogy: it's like a person going into, say, a biker bar and complaining how all bikers are intolerant, violent twats - then claiming how they proved his point after they rip off his arms and beat the shit out of him with the wet ends.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 27, 2013 at 3:26 am (This post was last modified: September 27, 2013 at 3:43 am by Mystical.)
(September 25, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Again if this were true, then where were you, or anyone who kudoed your words, when I was being told by a half a dozen members that I should have died of AIDS?
None of you were Anywhere to be found. Why? Because of the double standard here. Only atheists are to be treated with kid gloves, and are to be honored and respected with word though and deed. Christians, can be verbally shat on, and no one cares. It's not only acceptable, but seemingly mandatory..
You're such a liar Drich. I gave you benefit of the doubt though, and went and checked.
where the ONLy offensive languaged post aimed at Drich that I saw had a very goodpoint in it and the point could not be made without calling him selfish and a dickhead.
I found no "Drich bashing" in any of them nor did anyone tell him they wish him dead.
I did find him being warned in his first thread ever about preaching and then excused of any punishment.
I found Drich offering everyone an incureable illness. here.
Drich Wrote:If you do not think you would be so inclined to ask God for your life, then I ASK that you allow me to pray that God place you in a prolonged situation where you fret for your life every minute of every waking hour, for several days/weeks/months or even years if need be and lets see what happens. (Ill help you get into the situation, but it is on you to work it out with God on whether or not you get back out.)
And calling Maelstrom a Spicoli and says this:
Drich Wrote:" Again the offer is if you think you can, you will stand firm in your beliefs and not beg for mercy/life just say the word, and I will ask God to infect you with something or place you in a situation where you can find out for yourself. "
...After which he's called a sadistic condescending asshole and told that he's full of shit, which is entirely accurate.
At which point he prays for someone to ..well, it's sorta horrifying what he prayed for:
drich Wrote:
Quote:In fact, let's turn up the heat. I don't want some piss-ant wussy copout like a disease, unless it's necrotising fasciitis or something similar. Make it a bullet, or a speeding train. How about an explosion?
Do it.
DO IT.
I am deadly serious.
Done. Now you pray for the same thing.
...Again I not praying you contract something and die for it for the sake of spite I am praying that God gives you the gift of an illness like what is being discussed so you can tear down the walls you put up to keep you from Him.
Turns out: You are full of shit.
Not even one person said you should've been killed by AIDS. Not one (that I could find), much less half a dozen
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 27, 2013 at 7:35 am
(September 27, 2013 at 3:26 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Turns out: You are full of shit.
Not even one person said you should've been killed by AIDS. Not one (that I could find), much less half a dozen
The voice that talks back to him when he prays probably told him that. You know what a prankster jesus can be!
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 27, 2013 at 9:18 pm
(September 27, 2013 at 3:26 am)missluckie26 Wrote:
(September 25, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Again if this were true, then where were you, or anyone who kudoed your words, when I was being told by a half a dozen members that I should have died of AIDS?
None of you were Anywhere to be found. Why? Because of the double standard here. Only atheists are to be treated with kid gloves, and are to be honored and respected with word though and deed. Christians, can be verbally shat on, and no one cares. It's not only acceptable, but seemingly mandatory..
You're such a liar Drich. I gave you benefit of the doubt though, and went and checked.
where the ONLy offensive languaged post aimed at Drich that I saw had a very goodpoint in it and the point could not be made without calling him selfish and a dickhead.
I found no "Drich bashing" in any of them nor did anyone tell him they wish him dead.
I did find him being warned in his first thread ever about preaching and then excused of any punishment.
I found Drich offering everyone an incureable illness. here.
Drich Wrote:If you do not think you would be so inclined to ask God for your life, then I ASK that you allow me to pray that God place you in a prolonged situation where you fret for your life every minute of every waking hour, for several days/weeks/months or even years if need be and lets see what happens. (Ill help you get into the situation, but it is on you to work it out with God on whether or not you get back out.)
And calling Maelstrom a Spicoli and says this:
Drich Wrote:" Again the offer is if you think you can, you will stand firm in your beliefs and not beg for mercy/life just say the word, and I will ask God to infect you with something or place you in a situation where you can find out for yourself. "
...After which he's called a sadistic condescending asshole and told that he's full of shit, which is entirely accurate.
At which point he prays for someone to ..well, it's sorta horrifying what he prayed for:
drich Wrote:Done. Now you pray for the same thing.
...Again I not praying you contract something and die for it for the sake of spite I am praying that God gives you the gift of an illness like what is being discussed so you can tear down the walls you put up to keep you from Him.
Turns out: You are full of shit.
Not even one person said you should've been killed by AIDS. Not one (that I could find), much less half a dozen
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 27, 2013 at 9:28 pm (This post was last modified: September 27, 2013 at 10:17 pm by Cyberman.)
My crystal balls say: the ones she linked in the thread post you quoted.
Edited to fix le mot faux. Or something.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 27, 2013 at 11:57 pm
(September 27, 2013 at 3:26 am)missluckie26 Wrote:
(September 25, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Again if this were true, then where were you, or anyone who kudoed your words, when I was being told by a half a dozen members that I should have died of AIDS?
None of you were Anywhere to be found. Why? Because of the double standard here. Only atheists are to be treated with kid gloves, and are to be honored and respected with word though and deed. Christians, can be verbally shat on, and no one cares. It's not only acceptable, but seemingly mandatory..
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
September 28, 2013 at 12:25 am
Wow. Doing a search and just reading Drich's words is, well, illuminating. He doesn't appear to be attempting to following a coherent line of discussion at all, rather he simply works to derail and deflect criticism of his object of delusion. It must really bug him that we don't agree with nearly anything he says.