The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)

[Esquilax]

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[xpastor]

In response to my comments on design flaws in living organisms

Or a fallen and cursed creation as the result of the sin of Adam and Eve.

BTW, since the 18th century, the case against atheistic origin science is now even greater because of the discoveries in DNA, RNA, and the workings of the cell.

Gimme a break. You propose as a magical explanation for the wonky path of the recurrent laryngeal nerve a process for which there is absolutely no evidence: the sin of Adam and Eve messing up all the rest of the world. There isn't even a statement of this in the Bible itself, just one vague sentence in Romans 8:22 (the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together) which various theologians have riffed on. So what did the pre-Fall giraffe look like? How long was its neck?

As for DNA, if it's such great evidence for creationism, why are the vast majority of genetic scientists evolutionists? Why do they confidently use DNA to measure the degree of relationship between widely disparate species and to estimate the millions of years between various evolutionary stages?

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

In response to my comments on design flaws in living organisms

Or a fallen and cursed creation as the result of the sin of Adam and Eve.

BTW, since the 18th century, the case against atheistic origin science is now even greater because of the discoveries in DNA, RNA, and the workings of the cell.

Gimme a break. You propose as a magical explanation for the wonky path of the recurrent laryngeal nerve a process for which there is absolutely no evidence: the sin of Adam and Eve messing up all the rest of the world. There isn't even a statement of this in the Bible itself, just one vague sentence in Romans 8:22 (the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together) which various theologians have riffed on. So what did the pre-Fall giraffe look like? How long was its neck?

As for DNA, if it's such great evidence for creationism, why are the vast majority of genetic scientists evolutionists? Why do they confidently use DNA to measure the degree of relationship between widely disparate species and to estimate the millions of years between various evolutionary stages?

The vast majority are deceived.

[Jackie]

In response to my comments on design flaws in living organisms
Gimme a break. You propose as a magical explanation for the wonky path of the recurrent laryngeal nerve a process for which there is absolutely no evidence: the sin of Adam and Eve messing up all the rest of the world. There isn't even a statement of this in the Bible itself, just one vague sentence in Romans 8:22 (the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together) which various theologians have riffed on. So what did the pre-Fall giraffe look like? How long was its neck?

As for DNA, if it's such great evidence for creationism, why are the vast majority of genetic scientists evolutionists? Why do they confidently use DNA to measure the degree of relationship between widely disparate species and to estimate the millions of years between various evolutionary stages?

The vast majority are deceived.

I agree, you are deceived, so are Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Mormons and Catholics and Jews. Just like morons who believe in Big Foot and the Loc Ness Monster.

I'll make you a deal though. Get your pet god claim to the patient office and win a Nobel Prize, then we can talk. Until then you are in the same line as any other person with a pet god claim.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

The vast majority are deceived.

I agree, you are deceived, so are Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Mormons and Catholics and Jews. Just like morons who believe in Big Foot and the Loc Ness Monster.

I'll make you a deal though. Get your pet god claim to the patient office and win a Nobel Prize, then we can talk. Until then you are in the same line as any other person with a pet god claim.

I am just Christian.

[xpastor]

In response to my comments on design flaws in living organisms
Gimme a break. You propose as a magical explanation for the wonky path of the recurrent laryngeal nerve a process for which there is absolutely no evidence: the sin of Adam and Eve messing up all the rest of the world. There isn't even a statement of this in the Bible itself, just one vague sentence in Romans 8:22 (the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together) which various theologians have riffed on. So what did the pre-Fall giraffe look like? How long was its neck?

As for DNA, if it's such great evidence for creationism, why are the vast majority of genetic scientists evolutionists? Why do they confidently use DNA to measure the degree of relationship between widely disparate species and to estimate the millions of years between various evolutionary stages?

The vast majority are deceived.

You didn't answer my question about the giraffe's neck and ignored my comment that even in the bible there is no statement about this ridiculous story of a fallen creation.

"The vast majority are deceived." You must be into conspiracy theories. So you think that only a bunch of people who have no scientific education are correct when they cling to the predetermined claims of a few fellow fundamentalists with science degrees who can't get themselves published in peer-reviewed journals. If there were compelling evidence for the creation fairy tale, real scientists would acknowledge it.

[Doubting Thomas]

Or a fallen and cursed creation as the result of the sin of Adam and Eve.

So you're saying that everyone's bodies were perfect, but the second Adam & Eve ate the fruit then our bodies got all fucked up?

First of all, how do you know it was God that created the entire universe and not some other magical, powerful being?

And who or what created God?

When an atheist proposes God as a rebuttal, the atheist has disproved himself.

Please show where I proposed a god as a rebuttal? All I'm asking is how do you know that the creator of the universe is Yahweh and not the Flying Spaghetti Monster, as a hypothetical? How do you know it wasn't aliens from a parallel universe who created life on earth? How do you know that the entire universe isn't some strange science experiment in a jar in some huge, massive laboratory in some mega-universe?

I can ask questions about gods and still be an atheist just like I can ask questions about flowers without being a botanist.

And again, if you're going to assert intelligent design, who or what designed the designer?

Atheistic origin science has completely failed to explain the universe and life.

As has Christianity. At least with science, "I don't know" is a valid answer and leads to more discovery. All Christianity has is "Goddidit, so shut up and keep praying" which stifles scientific discovery.

[Crossless2.0]

In response to my comments on design flaws in living organisms
Gimme a break. You propose as a magical explanation for the wonky path of the recurrent laryngeal nerve a process for which there is absolutely no evidence: the sin of Adam and Eve messing up all the rest of the world. There isn't even a statement of this in the Bible itself, just one vague sentence in Romans 8:22 (the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together) which various theologians have riffed on. So what did the pre-Fall giraffe look like? How long was its neck?

As for DNA, if it's such great evidence for creationism, why are the vast majority of genetic scientists evolutionists? Why do they confidently use DNA to measure the degree of relationship between widely disparate species and to estimate the millions of years between various evolutionary stages?

The vast majority are deceived.

Are you trying to break some record for unsubstantiated claims? Are you even reading the thoughtful responses people are giving you? This stubborn loud-and-proud ignorance isn't becoming.

[Bad Writer]

Well, this asshole has already made up his mind that he is correct no matter what, so any rebuttal, no matter how drenched in research and fact it may be, is still wrong.