The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)

[Kayenneh]

and did I miss anything?

Nope, nothing vital at least. What degree Grace has is still up for debate though, since she seems really reluctant to reveal it. Oh well..

[Airyaman]

Creationist science: things me no understand, therefore god.

[Ryantology]

When a nimrod makes a thread like this and it gets 250 replies in less than 36 hours, the nimrod wins.

[Tonus]

I am working on facts.

Well, there's your problem. Let us know when you start working with facts, instead of on them.

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I want the Force to be real, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot make my coffee mug fly into my hand from across the room.

Just say something that angers your wife.

[Cyberman]

When a nimrod makes a thread like this and it gets 250 replies in less than 36 hours, the nimrod wins.

Yes, I still remember the last time someone bragged about having the most popular thread on the forum because of how many replies he was attracting. The fact that almost 100% of them were variations on calling him an idiot didn't seem to faze him.

[Kayenneh]

Yes, I still remember the last time someone bragged about having the most popular thread on the forum because of how many replies he was attracting. The fact that almost 100% of them were variations on calling him an idiot didn't seem to faze him.

Thus the appeal of reality shows. Infamy gives you a place in the spotlight. Hooray..!

[Heir Apparent]

When a nimrod makes a thread like this and it gets 250 replies in less than 36 hours, the nimrod wins.

I think the quality of replies would determine that. In this case the nimrod isn't even on the same planet as "winning."

[Bucky Ball]

Your assertion in paragraph one is demonstrably false. Historically false, and mathematically false.
Your presumption in paragraph two is also demonstrably false.
All you can say, is "I don't understand this". A statement of your personal ignorance is proof of nothing, (except that you don't understand).
In no way have you justified the leap, from your lack of understanding, to your specific conclusion.
There is no "proof" of a deity. Before you assert your proof, you must first obtain, and establish, demonstrate, or at least say, what the criteria are, that the proof system invokes.
You have done nothing even remotely close to that.

Unfortunately for you, you also don't understand what the word "prove" means.
You also do not understand your cult.

Let me explain.

There are literally billions of possible explanations for any unknown. Your argument is a "god of the gaps" argument, because your psychological make-up REQUIRES an answer this afternoon.
It's really more about Psychology, than religion. (See "anal retention" in your Psych text).

If you REALLY DO have proof of something, then faith is unnecessary.
Are you REALLY sure you want to devalue/render unnecessary, your faith, (a "virtue", and "gift of your spirit") ? If you have PROOF of anything, then what Jebus said is rendered false. "Many are called, but few are chosen", "NO ONE shall come to me unless the Father call him".

Do you enjoy being a false prophet ? Jebus tole me you peeps would be coming out of your holes.

Happy hereticing.





meow

In the book of Romans, God Almighty says that there is no excuse for not believing in the Creator.

Romans 1:19-20
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

The faith in Jesus Christ as the Saviour for your sins is a step beyond just believing there is a Creator.

You must believe that He died on the cross and paid for all your sins by His shed blood, that He rose from the dead, and that you have complete forgiveness of all sins and everlasting life just by faith in Him.

Many do not believe because they are self righteous and do not think they would not get to go to heaven.
Others think that you must earn it by works of some kind. But that denies the sacrifice of Jesus Christ as the complete payment for sins.

Sorry Mr. Heretic. "God Almighty" didn't write the Epistle to the Romans.
Saul of Tarsus wrote parts of it. You have not established any possible mechanism that could result in "inspiration". If your deity changed the paths of the electrons in the writer's brains, then by Pauli Exclusion, the entire universe was changed at the same instant. The early church never claimed ONLY the books of the Babble were "inspired". The reference in Timothy is to ALL holy texts. Did your deity write all the others also ? You have in no way demonstrated your god, or the authority of you books. Before you quote Babble verses, you must complete those tasks.

You were told "judge not, lest ye be judged", by your savior. Why is it you are judgmental, when you were specifically commanded by Jebus NOT to do that. Are YOU the exception ? Only American Fundamentalism spouts the junk you do about "must believe". In fact traditional Christian Moral Theology states that sin requires 3 elements. 1. serious matter, 2. full knowledge, 3. full consent.
Obviously non-beliebvers meet none of those. Maybe take a class in Theology some day, and learn about your cult, a bit, before you incompetently start your preaching career.

St. Paul told you faith was a gift and a virtue. THAT is no "demand". So you get to just ignore what you find inconvenient in the Babble ?
Jesus NEVER said he was "paying for sins". When the young man in Matthew asked him "What must I do to gain eternal life", Jebus said "Keep the commandments". That's ALL. Not "oh just wait, I'll be dying for your sins". The entire paradigm of "dying for sin" is non-Biblical, non-Hebrew and entirely cooked up by Saul of Tarsus, and the early church, as a marketing scheme.

Tell me sir, when and how exactly did the notion of "inspiration" begin to be claimed ? I bet you can't even answer that. The early church did not claim "inspiration". The reason Eusebius said he was cutting down the number of gospels to 4 was that there were "4 winds, and 4 pillars" on which the Earth stood. Nothing about "inspiration", or anything about what the criteria for that might be.

Christians love to spout the salvation "dying for sin" business.
The role of a messiah (in Hebrew apocalypticism .. and most Jews were not apocalyptics) was to restore the political entity of the Kingdom of Israel. Jebus was one of many, (if he ever really existed, and there are many reason to think he did not ... see Dr. Richard Carrier), whose followers made the claim he was a messiah. He failed to complete his task. Jews were not waiting for someone to "pay for their sins". That was cooked up by the church. If you actually look back to the roots of "sin" in Genesis, it's really "chaos" (not "sin") from the Sumerian culture, as the famous Jewish philosopher and Talmud scholar, Martin Buber points out in "Good and Evil", (Part II).

So then, you can't even begin to defend your nonsense, except by spouting Babble verses ?
Damn. I thought maybe this wasn't gonna be THAT easy. It's no fun when they just spout verses, and run.


meow

[Bad Writer]

I want the Force to be real, but no matter how hard I try, I cannot make my coffee mug fly into my hand from across the room.

Just say something that angers your wife.

Oh gee! Look at that! I'm a fucking Jedi!
The Force - 1
Yahweh - 0

[TheBeardedDude]

I'll ask again, would simple organisms disprove god?

What kind of life would be consistent with God not existing according to you?

How do you demonstrate the plausibility of this?