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And Hells come back to haunt me
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Then there's no problem. Thanks for clearing that up.
[/quote] but it should be pointed out that who ends up there is not based on an individual's intellectual determination about the existence of God. having access to the dual sources of God's revelation (nature, and scripture) provides the answer the easiest, but still can be obtain by nature alone.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 22, 2013 at 8:27 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2013 at 8:27 pm by Brakeman.)
(October 22, 2013 at 8:04 pm)snowtracks Wrote: but it should be pointed out that who ends up there is not based on an individual's intellectual determination about the existence of God. having access to the dual sources of God's revelation (nature, and scripture) provides the answer the easiest, but still can be obtain by nature alone. So the ancient middle east goat herders that wrote the bible fibbed about it being the only way to god? Does god know about this?
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(October 22, 2013 at 8:27 pm)Brakeman Wrote:(October 22, 2013 at 8:04 pm)snowtracks Wrote: but it should be pointed out that who ends up there is not based on an individual's intellectual determination about the existence of God. having access to the dual sources of God's revelation (nature, and scripture) provides the answer the easiest, but still can be obtain by nature alone. it's an honorable profession.
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No, I would agree, goat herder is an honorable profession. Waking before dawn, doing all it takes to maintain the health and wellbeing of your charges, selling them at market, sleeping well after sundown after another day's hard graft.
As distinct from, say, preacher; getting paid for doing nothing else other than lie to your charges, fleecing them for all they're worth, telling them how they deserve their kindling fate unless they buy the cure that only you, special parasite you, can sell them, being trotted out as an authority figure on issues that shouldn't even concern you, and so on ad nauseam. I can't think of another profession that requires that you be either deluded enough actually to believe the lies you're selling or dishonest enough to convince others that you do - except maybe politician, but even they don't get a free pass, and those qualities aren't exactly job requirements anyway (for all they might help). Regardless, honorable isn't even the last thing it is.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Or as Min would say, there's a difference between a goat herder and a goat fucker.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
would be interesting to know what the atheist think happens after death (perhaps it's not discussed for lack of proof).
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
 (October 24, 2013 at 2:54 pm)snowtracks Wrote: would be interesting to know what the atheist think happens after death (perhaps it's not discussed for lack of proof).Of course I do not know, having never been dead. What I hope happens is that the Rainbow Bridge is true (best version of Heaven ever). What all available evidence would seem to suggest is that my neurons will stop firing, and the essential me will die along with my body, and I'll rot. I'd love to believe I'll last, but nothing except mythology has ever suggested this is possible.
I think we just cease to exist.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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