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I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
(October 3, 2013 at 12:58 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Christian bale all the way.

What the fuck? Kevin Conroy! Big Grin
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
To the OP, let me get this straight.
You come to our territory for us to "challenge" you, yet you put rules about how you want it done. This is how it appears from where I stand:

Enters foreigner.
"My tire is flat. Help me. While you change the tire for me as I chew on my finger nails, be sure to shut the fuck up, make no interruptions, and make it quick. Also, if my people come to look out for me, fuck them, too."

Uh, no. Fuck you.
Pointing around: "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out!"
Half Baked

"Let the atheists come to me, and stop keeping them away, because the kingdom of heathens belongs to people like these." -Saint Bacon
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
Well here's a nice simple explanation that shouldn't be too taxing even for a YEC:

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/benton.html

I'll await the denial.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
You'll never even slow a creatard down by throwing facts at them, Max.

These shitheads are perfectly capable of looking at something like this:

Quote:They cannot deny that hundreds of millions of fossils reside in display cases and drawers around the world. Perhaps some would argue that these specimens - huge skeletons of dinosaurs, blocks from ancient shell beds containing hundreds of specimens, delicately preserved fern fronds — have been manufactured by scientists to confuse the public. This is clearly ludicrous.

and say that their fucking trickster of a god put them there to test our faith. Apparently, they worship Loki.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
Fair point Min but I just work on the basis that if we provide enough information then eventually in some of the cases the data seeps through and they realize the untenable nature of their position.

If we did this together, of course we could provide the Max and Min positions.

Do you think I should provide an example based on astronomy too? The more bases we cover the better.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
(October 3, 2013 at 2:30 am)max-greece Wrote: Fair point Min but I just work on the basis that if we provide enough information then eventually in some of the cases the data seeps through and they realize the untenable nature of their position.

If we did this together, of course we could provide the Max and Min positions.

Do you think I should provide an example based on astronomy too? The more bases we cover the better.

With most christians I would say your right as that is what happened to me, then again I was always a science lover and never anything close to YEC.When I think the skull thickness required to be YEC I can't help but think of this guy
[Image: File:Pachycephalosaurus.jpg]
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
OK well just for completeness and to feel I did my bit to help educate and all that:

The nearest Galaxy to us is Andromeda. It happens to be the only one you can see with the naked eye on a clear night (you can use Google Sky Map to help you find it if you have a smartphone).

It also happens to be on a collision course with the Milky Way (our galaxy) - so much for design but that's not the issue here.

Anyway Andromeda is about 1.5 million Light years away (do I have to explain how we know that?)

Here's the thing.

If you believe, based on biblical accounts that the earth is 6,000 years old then I presume you believe the universe is of similar age.

So - how can we see Andromeda?

If the universe is only 6,000 years old the light from Andromeda shouldn't reach us for another 1,494,000 years, give or take a few.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
Their god created the light from andromeda already on its way, 6000 lightyears from the Earth, duh.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
(October 2, 2013 at 11:45 pm)catfish Wrote: Oh, we make mod actions public now? I can take my cues from you if you like.
Why don't you, I don't know, perhaps just do your job?

CD's punishment will be cleaning the shit you made on our report area. Happy now?
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:19 am)LastPoet Wrote: Their god created the light from andromeda already on its way, 6000 lightyears from the Earth, duh.

It would have to have been 5,000 lightyears away as the Persians describe it sometime before the turn of the first millenium.

However, as you understand that answer - God did it - is utterly useless and incredibly weak. I am hoping over the course of years the person that puts it forward as an argument realizes that.

I think the mistake we make in these discussions is to expect YEC's to see the light (so to speak) during the debate. This is unlikely but in the wee small hours, maybe years later, they might start to think...

Its all we can realistically hope for.
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