Abiogenesis is impossible

[Cyberman]

Don't bother setting your alarm.

[ThomM]

Lets see

For 2000 years - using the best methods available - and with almost unlimited funds - theists have

1 - Failed to provide a single piece of proof of the existence of a supernatural god (THere have been plenty of human based ones - and many more human"created fiction" ones

2 - In that time - we have not a single document from the supposed time of the christ that even mentions ITS name. (With no female gods - the XTIAN gods have NO reason to be male)

3 - THERE has been NO statistically significant study - published by a peer reviewed scientific journal - that even suggests that prayer to ANY named god has any effect beyond chance -

In fact - the study of prayer no only PROVES it is nothing but chance - but it does so no matter what you pray to - from a rock to any named god.

4 - No theist has ever provided proof that there was a great flood - or Joshua at Jericho - or that the EARTH is the center of the Universe - or the Earth is a CIRCLE (A circle is flat 2 dimensional) - or that the Jews existed before about 1200 BCE.

When you want to know what religion is wrong - ASK theists - they will gladly provide you will lots of LOGICAL reasons why EVERY religion on earth is not the correct one - leaving NONE to consider at all.

When you actually read the bible - you find that there are so many errors and contradiction - and things that are simply FALSE as to render it MYTH and LEGEND status.

The stories of genesis are proven to be fairy tales - among them - the SUN had to be first -

in the man time - science has correctly established that the earth is NOT the center of the Universe - nor is it even the center of our solar system. They have proven that the earth is far older than the 6000 year term of the bible timeline. They can say without question that a worldwide flood of the magnitude claimed in the bible did not happen.

And it was the catholic church - in France - in the 1800's - during the Grape Root Blight THAT proved that evolution DOES happen. THey did so by discovering root stock that was resistant to the blight - and they grafted these American Roots - with their desired stems - to save their vineyards (THis was done by Monks).

That evolution happens is not in question anymore - what is in question is whether THEISTS brains have stopped developing!

[Brakeman]

You have not shown that abiogenesis could not happen, you are only making an argument from personal incredulity...

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I understand probability and statistics very well. I also understand mathematics very well.
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OK since you know facts and math so well. How did god perform his magic to create life? How did he do it? Do you have a mathematical model that explains this? Anything in physics or chemistry to explain this?
Where did god learn how to use magic? Where did god come from? You say god is alive, so how did he become alive? Did god evolve somewhere in godland in a primordial god soup?

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

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I understand probability and statistics very well. I also understand mathematics very well.
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OK since you know facts and math so well. How did god perform his magic to create life? How did he do it? Do you have a mathematical model that explains this? Anything in physics or chemistry to explain this?
Where did god learn how to use magic? Where did god come from? You say god is alive, so how did he become alive? Did god evolve somewhere in godland in a primordial god soup?

The atheist assumes no God. He then finds he cannot account for the vast complexity of life. So the assumption is false.

I do not need a mathematical model for God.

God made it so it is inexcusable to not believe in the Creator.

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Lets see

For 2000 years - using the best methods available - and with almost unlimited funds - theists have

1 - Failed to provide a single piece of proof of the existence of a supernatural god (THere have been plenty of human based ones - and many more human"created fiction" ones

2 - In that time - we have not a single document from the supposed time of the christ that even mentions ITS name. (With no female gods - the XTIAN gods have NO reason to be male)

3 - THERE has been NO statistically significant study - published by a peer reviewed scientific journal - that even suggests that prayer to ANY named god has any effect beyond chance -

In fact - the study of prayer no only PROVES it is nothing but chance - but it does so no matter what you pray to - from a rock to any named god.

4 - No theist has ever provided proof that there was a great flood - or Joshua at Jericho - or that the EARTH is the center of the Universe - or the Earth is a CIRCLE (A circle is flat 2 dimensional) - or that the Jews existed before about 1200 BCE.

When you want to know what religion is wrong - ASK theists - they will gladly provide you will lots of LOGICAL reasons why EVERY religion on earth is not the correct one - leaving NONE to consider at all.

When you actually read the bible - you find that there are so many errors and contradiction - and things that are simply FALSE as to render it MYTH and LEGEND status.

The stories of genesis are proven to be fairy tales - among them - the SUN had to be first -

in the man time - science has correctly established that the earth is NOT the center of the Universe - nor is it even the center of our solar system. They have proven that the earth is far older than the 6000 year term of the bible timeline. They can say without question that a worldwide flood of the magnitude claimed in the bible did not happen.

And it was the catholic church - in France - in the 1800's - during the Grape Root Blight THAT proved that evolution DOES happen. THey did so by discovering root stock that was resistant to the blight - and they grafted these American Roots - with their desired stems - to save their vineyards (THis was done by Monks).

That evolution happens is not in question anymore - what is in question is whether THEISTS brains have stopped developing!

I am not Catholic.
What the CAtholic church does is their own business.
There are many denominations that are not Catholic.
That is a straw man that you have used.
It has no bearing on the issue at all.

[Ryantology]

The atheist assumes no God. He then finds he cannot account for the vast complexity of life. So the assumption is false.

I do not need a mathematical model for God.

God made it so it is inexcusable to not believe in the Creator.

You cannot account for God's existence, or even demonstrate it.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

Simple logic.

Assume no God
That lead to contradictions in determining where everything came from.
Therefor God is.

I think I understand you. You're saying that if I assume there is no god then it isn't possible to explain absolutely everything in the universe. Whereas by invoking the utterly undefined term 'god' you can easily account for absolutely anything simply by uttering "goddidit". Therefore, since goddidit has greater explanatory power, 'god' must actually exist.

I'm guessing your next installment will show that 'god' must be the one in the bible. Good luck. With reasoning like you've shown up to now, it should be good for a few yucks.

If you can explain the universe, the laws o nature, all matter, the vast complexity of life without God, please do.

All efforts have failed.

In fact they lead to a contradiction, so they will never succeed.

So the only alternative to God is false.
Therefore God did it.

Next step is to identify God.

[Ryantology]

If you can explain the universe, the laws o nature, all matter, the vast complexity of life without God, please do.

All efforts have failed.

In fact they lead to a contradiction, so they will never succeed.

So the only alternative to God is false.
Therefore God did it.

Next step is to identify God.

Explain your assumption that God deserves to be the default explanation. I've asked you a variation of this like seven times and you don't respond.

[NoraBrimstone]

Simple logic.

Assume god.
That leads to contradictions in determining where everything came from.
Therefore, no god is.

And believe me, I can find more contradictions in print than you can imagine with your misunderstanding of basic science.

I understand science very well.

Lying is bad, mmkay.

[Esquilax]

God made it so it is inexcusable to not believe in the Creator.

Book of Ryan 4:78: Go fuck a cactus.

Book of Ryan 8:12: All men know that Ryan is the one true lord, and if they deny him, they are lying. Actively lying. Like a liar would. There is no excuse for denying the lordiness of Ryan. Amen.

Do you believe that this is true, Grace? If not, why not?

Replace my name with the word god, and you'll have the answer to why we all can't give a fuck about the unsupported assertions you make about your god.

[pocaracas]

The atheist assumes no God.

Yes, I'm with you, so far...

He then finds he cannot account for the vast complexity of life.

What?!
Cannot?
You do know there's a theory out there that accounts for it perfectly, don't you?

So the assumption is false.

errrr....no.