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Abiogenesis is impossible
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Actually it's more like the creationist assumes "God" and then finds that reality suddenly doesn't fit into their special book, no matter how much they keep sawing bits off.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (October 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I do not need a mathematical model for God. I'm with you on this one. "0 + 0 = 0" isn't much of a mathematical model.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  (October 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:Then why do we need to come up with mathematical or scientific answers for your questions? You claim creation came from god but won't tell us how it did, or where he came from, very basic questions that come as a result of your proposition.(October 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Brakeman Wrote: OK since you know facts and math so well. How did god perform his magic to create life? How did he do it? Do you have a mathematical model that explains this? Anything in physics or chemistry to explain this?.. If you claim you don't need to answer us or support any of your assertions here, then you are spamming, which is against forum rules. I think most of the readers don't really mind in your case because you are being owned so badly it's laughable, but still, you should obey the rules that you agreed to when you joined. I guess you're just a die hard LIAR-FOR-JEBUS.
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 (October 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Brakeman Wrote:(October 5, 2013 at 7:56 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: .. I used simple logic, statistics, mathematics, biology, and chemistry to make the proof.
You left out that you relied on a lethal dose of presupposition and Special Pleading to make your proof work. And your recipe still came out wrong.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (October 8, 2013 at 3:26 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:Yes, but you used all of those incorrectly.(October 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Brakeman Wrote: OK since you know facts and math so well. How did god perform his magic to create life? How did he do it? Do you have a mathematical model that explains this? Anything in physics or chemistry to explain this? (October 8, 2013 at 3:26 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I used simple Could've stopped right there.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould (October 8, 2013 at 3:26 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:(October 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Brakeman Wrote: OK since you know facts and math so well. How did god perform his magic to create life? How did he do it? Do you have a mathematical model that explains this? Anything in physics or chemistry to explain this? God made the universe and the very laws of nature. I do not think God needs a model.  (October 9, 2013 at 7:45 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: God made the universe and the very laws of nature. Then you also aren't talking science at all. You're talking baseless bullshit.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (October 9, 2013 at 7:47 am)Esquilax Wrote:(October 9, 2013 at 7:45 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: God made the universe and the very laws of nature. I am talking science. Science is knowledge. I already proved that the no God assumption is false. That is now knowledge. It is unscientific to use the No God assumption in the age question. |
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