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Abiogenesis is impossible
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(December 26, 2013 at 1:37 am)snowtracks Wrote: what don't you understand about the mind imposing it's will on matter?

The part where you haven't demonstrated that there's a creative mind, or a will, or even a requirement that the (entirely natural, limited) combination of chemical bonds DNA can make have a creator.

Again, you're just asserting things and then trying to jam your god into the gaps in our knowledge. It isn't going to work.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
How can god be the default position? That makes no sense!

Your statement is like "Since science cannot explain creative minds, the default belief is eating cereal is the cause, and prove me wrong!"

I like Lucky Charms!

You make the assertion, so it is you that has to provide the proof.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(December 26, 2013 at 1:41 am)Sejanus Wrote:
(December 26, 2013 at 1:37 am)snowtracks Wrote: what don't you understand about the mind imposing it's will on matter?
What you refer to as the 'mind' is, you do realise, just electrical impulses, nerves, synapses and chemicals, right?
Guess what they all have in common.


stop embarassing the atheist nation with comments like that. the human mind registers, plans, forms intention about the future, and it acts (wills against matter).
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(December 26, 2013 at 2:14 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(December 26, 2013 at 1:41 am)Sejanus Wrote: What you refer to as the 'mind' is, you do realise, just electrical impulses, nerves, synapses and chemicals, right?
Guess what they all have in common.


stop embarassing the atheist nation with comments like that. the human mind registers, plans, forms intention about the future, and it acts (wills against matter).

Yep...so does the dog mind, the cat mind, the lion mind, the gazelle mind, etc.
Do tell how the brain can't, in its complexity, be the origin of such minds...
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(December 26, 2013 at 2:14 am)snowtracks Wrote: stop embarassing the atheist nation with comments like that. the human mind registers, plans, forms intention about the future, and it acts (wills against matter).
Never heard of "atheist nation" before. What is it, like a band or something?
Anyway, I said the 'mind' is generated by the brain, which is just a collection of nerves and chemicals. What's embarrassing about that? (And by the way, embarrassing has two r's, not one). If you're going to dispute this, I'd like to know where you studied Neuroscience, and more importantly, I'd like to see your peer-reviewed papers published on an alternate composition of the brain with supporting evidence. Don't disappoint.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
Dude. Montreal procedure
Here is a overveiw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_procedure
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To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(December 26, 2013 at 2:14 am)snowtracks Wrote: stop embarassing the atheist nation with comments like that. the human mind registers, plans, forms intention about the future, and it acts (wills against matter).

Yep, and all of those things are representative of emergent properties of the chemical and electrical impulses in the brain. What makes you think that simply describing things about minds counts as a refutation of the idea that it's a part of the brain?

That's like if I'd made the claim that cheese comes from dairy products, and your answer was "stop embarrassing yourself. Cheese is curdled, processed, ripened and aged before it is packaged." It's technically correct, but it's (either intentionally or through ignorance) ignoring the first step of the process.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(December 26, 2013 at 1:58 am)snowtracks Wrote: man was created in the image of God, it remains the default position. if you don't like, prove otherwise.

Now I know snowy is a troll
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(December 26, 2013 at 1:58 am)snowtracks Wrote: man was created in the image of God, it remains the default position. if you don't like, prove otherwise.

To prove that god did something you first have to demonstrate that god exists and just so you know,the default position is not "god did it" it's "we don't know yet".

The god done it assumption is what has held progress back for hundreds of years and is one of my pet hates. Lazy thinking that it is.



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He got his butt soundly kicked in the other thread. He's just coming here to start shit. I say ignore him.


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