Abiogenesis is impossible

[Tonus]

The "fifth day" of Genesis describes the creation of every type of sea-dwelling creature and all of the birds. Neither of which happen to appear in Cambrian fossil layers.

day five introduces animals (sea, land, air) that are self aware creatures and as such manifest attributes of mind, will, emotions.

Genesis 1:20,21: And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind.

God creates all of the creatures of the sea and every species of bird on the fifth day. If scientists had found birds in the Cambrian layer (or even a halibut), we'd all be creationists today. There are extremely few --if any!-- species from the Cambrian period which had not become extinct by the time the writer of Genesis described the fifth day of creation.

[Cato]

God creates all of the creatures of the sea and every species of bird on the fifth day. If scientists had found birds in the Cambrian layer (or even a halibut), we'd all be creationists today. There are extremely few --if any!-- species from the Cambrian period which had not become extinct by the time the writer of Genesis described the fifth day of creation.

There was also no mention of the Sumerians kicking back with warm beer.

[snowtracks]

day five introduces animals (sea, land, air) that are self aware creatures and as such manifest attributes of mind, will, emotions.

Genesis 1:20,21: And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind.

God creates all of the creatures of the sea and every species of bird on the fifth day. If scientists had found birds in the Cambrian layer (or even a halibut), we'd all be creationists today. There are extremely few --if any!-- species from the Cambrian period which had not become extinct by the time the writer of Genesis described the fifth day of creation.

okay, you are correct. sea mammals are introduced on day 5, specialized land mammals on day 6, on other land mammals, the text is silent.

[Rampant.A.I.]

[Cyberman]

For “the text is silent“, read “plot hole“.

[snowtracks]

That sounds like pure BS. For one thing no one knows how large the universe is or what it is. Second, the age of the universe is just speculation. If you use your own mind and think about it you will see why it's BS.

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at that site Simple to remember (Judaism online) it just lists what the natural state of earth and our universe would be if it were younger or older than it is now or if earth was closer or farther away etc.. It seems that they are attributing simple physics and logical conclusions (like our earth wouldn't be habitable if it wasn't right where it is) and think that's proof for intelligent design.

Snowtracks


you do understand that rocks that fall into a stars gravitational pull start going in circles around the star and their orbits inevitably drive them into the star, right?

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Obviously there's a habitable zone where all the elements are able to exist and thrive and *gasp, evolve with the right conditions. Do you believe earth is the only inhabited planet in the galaxy and beyond?

it's irrational to discount all the design evidence by appealing to that which can never be observed or detect, or appealing to infinity; theories breakdown if infinity needs to be involved. carl sagan had it right, we are alone.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

We are not necessarily alone at this very second but the distances are so great that for all practical purposes we are alone. I'm sure that there are billions of planets that have life forms, none of which are compatible with ours. So it's a good thing that are are so far from them.

[Esquilax]

it's irrational to discount all the design evidence by appealing to that which can never be observed or detect, or appealing to infinity; theories breakdown if infinity needs to be involved. carl sagan had it right, we are alone.

Seriously, how do you keep doing that? How do you keep chastising us for talking about things we "can never observe or detect" and then in the next sentence tell us about intelligent designers and god without your head exploding from the sheer cognitive dissonance?

Why are you such a hypocrite?

[Rampant.A.I.]

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at that site Simple to remember (Judaism online) it just lists what the natural state of earth and our universe would be if it were younger or older than it is now or if earth was closer or farther away etc.. It seems that they are attributing simple physics and logical conclusions (like our earth wouldn't be habitable if it wasn't right where it is) and think that's proof for intelligent design.

Snowtracks


you do understand that rocks that fall into a stars gravitational pull start going in circles around the star and their orbits inevitably drive them into the star, right?

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Obviously there's a habitable zone where all the elements are able to exist and thrive and *gasp, evolve with the right conditions. Do you believe earth is the only inhabited planet in the galaxy and beyond?

it's irrational to discount all the design evidence by appealing to that which can never be observed or detect, or appealing to infinity; theories breakdown if infinity needs to be involved. carl sagan had it right, we are alone.

Repeating the phrase "design evidence" and the same argument from ignorance is not providing evidence.

[Ryantology]

it's irrational to discount all the design evidence by appealing to that which can never be observed or detect

Which pieces of your 'design evidence' can be observed or detected or tested? Where are the trademarks of your specific god on creation? Point to specific examples of evidence of design that could not possibly be explained in any other way but as being the product of your specific god.