RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
July 19, 2014 at 5:45 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2014 at 6:08 pm by Whateverist.)
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Abiogenesis is impossible
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(July 19, 2014 at 11:52 am)whateverist Wrote:isn't that the way it goes? I provide biblical evidence that support the atheists' position that there wasn't a global flood and as an expression of gratitude, I get a surly attitude.(July 19, 2014 at 1:45 am)Rhythm Wrote: Lemme ask you this. Why do you need this narrative to be factual? Why? What theology is affected? None. Did christ make a promise - but only so long as there was a flood? No.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
July 19, 2014 at 11:10 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2014 at 11:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
There was no deluge Tracks. None. Of course it wasn't global, it just wasn't regional either. Am I supposed to hand you a cookie for being willing to meet me halfway to the truth?
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We're not looking for biblical evidence, snowflake; at least I'm not. We already know what your book says. I, for one, would settle for the tiniest bit of physical evidence. Got any?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
July 20, 2014 at 2:53 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2014 at 2:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I don't think that Tracks actually expects to find any. My offer's still on the table, not being availed of.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
July 20, 2014 at 5:41 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2014 at 5:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yeah, and there are tsunamis and rogue waves, and sewer overflow. None of which has any bearing on the deluge. This is the sort of hazy shit that the faithful like to point to, but "floods exist" does not equal "the deluge". I couldn't even draw a direct line from any particular flood as a source. The source flood in the deluge is an entirely imaginary one in every single aspect. It's based on floods the same way that Briar Rabbit is based on there having been rabbits in the world.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
I think its more akin to Chinese whispers. Something MAY have happened to trigger an initial legend, but its been distorted into a completely new story.
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
July 20, 2014 at 5:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2014 at 5:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think that even suggesting this is so is a stretch. Why? People couldn't have written about a flood that never happened? I doubt JK Rowling ever saw a magical car whisk kids of to fairy school.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
My take on this is that someone back in biblical times found some fossil seashells or similar on a mountain and thought the only way they could have got there was if the mountain was once under the sea. Which of course it would have been, back when it was part of the seabed before getting uplifted into a mountain.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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