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(January 29, 2015 at 1:29 am)snowtracks Wrote: hus, light was able to penetrate to the surface of the water (thru the clouds, atmosphere went from opaque to translucent [not transparent yet]). This light was the source of life-engaging photosynthesis for both 1. Anoxic - (can’t operate in presents of oxygen). 2. Oxic- (in present of oxygen, and producing oxy in some cases) single celled marine microorganisms.
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Biblical ref - One of the 4 major earth’s creation feature is darkness. God says in ref to ‘the sea’ (water completely covering the earth’s surface, no land yet). “ I made the clouds it’s garment and wrapped it in thick darkness”.
Uh huh...
Care to explain this one?
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(January 29, 2015 at 1:29 am)snowtracks Wrote: hus, light was able to penetrate to the surface of the water (thru the clouds, atmosphere went from opaque to translucent [not transparent yet]). This light was the source of life-engaging photosynthesis for both 1. Anoxic - (can’t operate in presents of oxygen). 2. Oxic- (in present of oxygen, and producing oxy in some cases) single celled marine microorganisms.
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Biblical ref - One of the 4 major earth’s creation feature is darkness. God says in ref to ‘the sea’ (water completely covering the earth’s surface, no land yet). “ I made the clouds it’s garment and wrapped it in thick darkness”.
Uh huh...
Care to explain this one?
You know how god is he is a drunk he can't help it.
(January 29, 2015 at 1:29 am)snowtracks Wrote: Biblical ref - One of the 4 major earth’s creation feature is darkness. God says in ref to ‘the sea’ (water completely covering the earth’s surface, no land yet). “ I made the clouds it’s garment and wrapped it in thick darkness”.
Mhmm. And if tomorrow we discovered something that completely overturned the science you were using, would you consider this verse a failure, or would you just spin it another way so that it was still "correct"?
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(January 29, 2015 at 1:55 am)Darkstar Wrote: Uh huh...
Care to explain this one?
Simple. The Bible doesn't say that god did not have a flashlight handy, therefore it's plausible that he used a big honkin' flashlight until he had the sun and moon ready. And if you point out that plants needed light, I'll point out that the Bible doesn't say that the godly flashlight didn't project the light necessary to trigger photosynthesis. You keep bringing up objections, and I'll keep pointing out that there's all kinds of gaps in the story that I can stuff more magic into. Checkmate atheists!
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I want one of those. How long do the batteries last. I guess they would probably charge with a lightning bolt.
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January 30, 2015 at 10:47 am (This post was last modified: January 30, 2015 at 10:48 am by Chas.)
(January 29, 2015 at 1:29 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 9:49 am)Chas Wrote: Your stretching facts and making errors do not constitute scientific proof.
Photosynthesis depends on the moon? Please explain how.
Earth’s atmosphere departs from the general rule that the greater a planet’s distance is from it’s star, and the greater it’s surface density is, the thicker the atmosphere. Compared to Venus (Earth’s twin comparison), it is much lighter. http://io9.com/5645624/earth-and-venus-h...-lightning. This is the result of the moon collision event ref. above. Thus, light was able to penetrate to the surface of the water (thru the clouds, atmosphere went from opaque to translucent [not transparent yet]). This light was the source of life-engaging photosynthesis for both 1. Anoxic - (can’t operate in presents of oxygen). 2. Oxic- (in present of oxygen, and producing oxy in some cases) single celled marine microorganisms.
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Biblical ref - One of the 4 major earth’s creation feature is darkness. God says in ref to ‘the sea’ (water completely covering the earth’s surface, no land yet). “ I made the clouds it’s garment and wrapped it in thick darkness”.
That doesn't even begin to answer the question, it is completely off the track.
(January 29, 2015 at 1:55 am)Darkstar Wrote: [quote='snowtracks' pid='859228' dateline='1422509398']
hus, light was able to penetrate to the surface of the water (thru the clouds, atmosphere went from opaque to translucent [not transparent yet]). This light was the source of life-engaging photosynthesis for both 1. Anoxic - (can’t operate in presents of oxygen). 2. Oxic- (in present of oxygen, and producing oxy in some cases) single celled marine microorganisms.
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Biblical ref - One of the 4 major earth’s creation feature is darkness. God says in ref to ‘the sea’ (water completely covering the earth’s surface, no land yet). “ I made the clouds it’s garment and wrapped it in thick darkness”.
Uh huh...
Care to explain this one?
It's true! He did it to give the light from distant galaxies a head start.
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February 1, 2015 at 1:17 am (This post was last modified: February 1, 2015 at 1:18 am by snowtracks.)
(January 28, 2015 at 9:49 am)Chas Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 1:23 am)snowtracks Wrote: The point of your above posted information is that biblical scripture has been scientifically proven to be accurate.
Your stretching facts and making errors do not constitute scientific proof.
Quote:Day 1 light penetrated the earth's opaque atmosphere, photosynthesis begins due mostly to the moon formation collision thus diagramed.
Photosynthesis depends on the moon? Please explain how.
Quote:Day 2 water cycle begins
There were photosynthetic organisms before there was a water cycle?
Quote:Day 3 dry land. plate tectonics and volcanism - radioactive energy imparted from moon formation collision thus diagramed (that diagram was sorely needed to be posted). Plants
There were photosynthetic organisms before there were plants?
Quote:Day 4 plants increasing consumption of carbon dioxide and water vapor, and production of oxygen to bring about the next atmospheric transformation - this time from translucent to transparent making the sun, moon and star visible on the earth's surface to 'serve as signs to mark seasons as days and years' - for future more advanced creatures requiring at least on occasion to guide instincts: feed, reproduce, migrate, hibernate.
The atmosphere was transparent already.
Quote:Day 5 sea animals of a higher order
Define 'higher order'.
Quote:Day 6 specialized land mammals.
Define 'specialized'. On what day did the unspecialized ones appear?
Quote:Day 7 man - the highest earthly order. Consisting of body (physical), soul (interface like property between body and spirit), spirit.
Define 'soul'. Define 'spirit'. Explain where they came from.
Quote:The spirit is the reason humans have awareness of self, concerns about death and about life after death, the desire to communicate with higher being (or the effortful repression), an innate awareness of right and wrong, or conscience, language capability including complex symbol cognition/expression, capacity for abstract thought including a drive to discover truth and absolutes.
You know, other animals exhibit awareness of self, morality, and even problem solving. There is no clear demarcation in consciousness, there is a spectrum of capability.
Quote:Notice. Spelling, etc. mistakes left in for people who need to correct others to make their life fulfilled.
It's OK, Snowflake, you're not being graded on spelling today.
(January 28, 2015 at 9:49 am)Chas Wrote: Your stretching facts and making errors do not constitute scientific proof.
Photosynthesis depends on the moon? Please explain how.
There were photosynthetic organisms before there was a water cycle?
There were photosynthetic organisms before there were plants?
The atmosphere was transparent already.
Define 'higher order'.
Define 'specialized'. On what day did the unspecialized ones appear?
Define 'soul'. Define 'spirit'. Explain where they came from.
You know, other animals exhibit awareness of self, morality, and even problem solving. There is no clear demarcation in consciousness, there is a spectrum of capability.
It's OK, Snowflake, you're not being graded on spelling today.