The most important reason anyone is an atheist

[Little Rik]

In other word you can give the meaning that you like to the word theory but the original meaning contradict your believe.

Yes you can, but if you have to do that to make your ideas work then the problem lies with those ideas and not the people you're trying to convince. Words evolve meanings over time, it's true; however that doesn't mean they are arbitrary things that can have any definition you feel like assigning them. That's why we have dictionaries and the ability - generally - to make ourselves understood. If you want to talk science and have your ideas taken seriously, you need to accept the language of science unless you have a bloody good reason not to. You have an issue with the modern scientific definition of the word "theory", take it up with the National Center for Science Education.

But if you want to go down the route of using only the 'original' meanings of commonly-accepted words because they're not as inconvenient for you, then you'd better leave Atheist Forums since an atheist was originally a christian, a person who denied the existence of the Roman gods. In fact, stop using your computer, given that the word originally meant a person who calculated numbers for a living, and start telling everyone you use an electric Difference Engine.
Or we could stop this silly semantic game and actually have a proper grown-up discussion.

One day i asked my doctor........DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE MEANING OF CANCER?
He said.........WHAT YOU MEAN?
Look, i know that you know what a cancer is but i just want to know if you know where the word cancer come from and why someone in the past gave that particular name.
He said.........AH, I SEE.........NO, I REALLY DON"T KNOW.
Sure Stimbo as far as you learn what the modern science establish than you shouldn't have any problem, after all who care where the meaning of the words come from as far as you can manage the daily life.
But a big problem may arise.
Take the religions which they are builded on dogmas or false truth.
After so many times that the meaning of the words get changed the original message become a false truth.
The same thing happen in all field of life.
What was a truth yesterday today will end up in the rubbish bin of history.
Not all the changes are good changes.
We need to change to survive but we got to be very careful and make sure the changes come for the good.
The word theory has been vandalized and his original meaning is gone for many.
Not for me however.

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Thanks for completely ignoring my post on what a theory actually is. That speaks volumes about you

1) You say that you know what a theory is and you say that they are facts and evidence.
I already said that not all theory are backed up by facts and evidence.
In fact most theories are just ideas not back up by facts and evidence.
2) I did not answer you because i already explain these points in reply to Stimbo.
3) I do not have always the time to answer all posts.
Sometime enrico goes to sleep like everybody else.

[Cyberman]

And then posts while unconscious.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

And then posts while unconscious.

The only way I can think that one could post such ludicrous nonsense is if one were eternally drunk.

Maybe that's señor enrico's spiritualism? Drowning in booze gets you closer to a god or something.

[Cyberman]

Worked out what's in the green box yet, Rico?

[Whateverist]

Don't forget to employ your intuition scientifically, Enrico. You can do it. What's in the green box?

[Lemonvariable72]

Enrice, I'm gonna share a little secret with you. Truth's don't change.

[Bad Wolf]

1) You say that you know what a theory is and you say that they are facts and evidence.
I already said that not all theory are backed up by facts and evidence.

Yes they are. If they are not backed up by evidence, then they are not theories. They are ideas or hypotheses, much like every religion today. You really have no idea how much time, money and effort is put into testing theories, do you? How rigorously they are scrutinized or how they are compiled

[Faith No More]

Enrico posts hard to follow. Grammar no good.

Intuitional science no teach English.

[Little Rik]

1) You say that you know what a theory is and you say that they are facts and evidence.
I already said that not all theory are backed up by facts and evidence.

Yes they are. If they are not backed up by evidence, then they are not theories. They are ideas or hypotheses, much like every religion today. You really have no idea how much time, money and effort is put into testing theories, do you? How rigorously they are scrutinized or how they are compiled

My spiritual teacher said regarding reading............THERE ARE 3 IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO WHEN YOU READ
1) BE ABLE TO READ
2) UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ
3) REMEMBER WHAT YOU HAVE READ

Unfortunately you only know how to read.
I already explained that originally theories were thinking of something and try to make some sort of conclusion out of it possibly turn the theories into practice.
With the passing of time people gave different meaning.
You can give the meaning that you like but do not pretend that i agree with you about the real meaning of the word theory
Too many words have been vandalized and their meaning changed 100%.
When i hear that a certain person serve in the army i feel sick in my guts.
Nobody serve in the army.
Serve come the Latin or the Etruscan and mean servus or slave so as far as someone get paid for doing a job he-she is not a slave and therefore is not serving.
I know you guys did not studied Latin so you wouldn't know the real meaning of the words but at least you shouldn't have the audacity to come out with so called truth.
Yours are just THEORIES without foundation NOT BACKED UP BY EVIDENCE.

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Enrice, I'm gonna share a little secret with you. Truth's don't change.

Gee, this time i agree with you.

Kudos given

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Don't forget to employ your intuition scientifically, Enrico. You can do it. What's in the green box?

Eh, i am only a white belt.
When i get the black belt i will tell you.
But not really.
Even when i will get the black belt i will not tell you.
Have you ever seen a master going around the street to show his-her skills?
The last thing that the masters do is to show their skills to unbelievers.
Eventually they show to believers
You got to establish a real relationship with someone that you trust in order to enjoy love In this case spiritual love.
What's the point into show not believers something good
The rule is that you give fodder to donkeys and royal jelly to love ones.

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What is science if not the gathering of knowledge.
Where you think it is located most of the knowledge?
Within this physical arena or universe?
Are you joking?
The old saying............IF YOU WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING YOU MUST KNOW YOURSELF.
And this work is done within not outside in this physical world.
This work and this science is called INTUITIONAL SCIENCE.

Looks like we may be talking past one another as to the use of the word "science". Below is the beginning of the wiki entry.

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Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge"[1]) is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.[2][3] In an older and closely related meaning, "science" also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied. A practitioner of science is known as a scientist.

Since classical antiquity, science as a type of knowledge has been closely linked to philosophy. In the early modern period the words "science" and "philosophy of nature" were sometimes used interchangeably.[4] By the 17th century, natural philosophy (which is today called "natural science") was considered a separate branch of philosophy.[5]

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Here it addresses the modern use of the word which we have been pointing out doesn't fit with what you've been calling Intuitional Science:

In modern usage, "science" most often refers to a way of pursuing knowledge, not only the knowledge itself. It is also often restricted to those branches of study that seek to explain the phenomena of the material universe.[6] In the 17th and 18th centuries scientists increasingly sought to formulate knowledge in terms of laws of nature such as Newton's laws of motion. And over the course of the 19th century, the word "science" became increasingly associated with the scientific method itself, as a disciplined way to study the natural world, including physics, chemistry, geology and biology.

And here is the other use of "science", still in use, which you have been claiming. Looks like I have been mistaken to insist on the other usage exclusively.

However, "science" has also continued to be used in a broad sense denoting reliable, teachable knowledge about a topic, as in modern terms like library science or computer science. This is also reflected in the names of some areas of academic study such as "social science" or "political science".

So if you don't mind placing your Intuition Science on the shelf beside Library Science, Computer Science and Political Science .. rather than on the shelf reserved for the natural sciences whose study employs the scientific method .. I think I can stop calling Intutional Science oxymoronic. Deal?

No deal mate.
Real science is a lot older then modern science.
In fact the first science goes back 7000 years ago when Lord Shiva gave INTUITIONAL SCIENCE.
Your link say that science is related mainly to this physical universe.
What a crap!!!
This physical universe is external to us therefore is not as important as the science that study what is within.
The old saying.............IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ALL YOU WILL HAVE TO KNOW YOURSELF.........and this require to extract the knowledge from within rather then from the external arena.

[Bob Kelso]

I'm going to go ahead and cut your semantics off at the knees boyo.

1) You say that you know what a theory is and you say that they are facts and evidence.

Do you know that in today's modern society there are two different kinds of theories? One, scientific theory, is a proven explanation of natural events backed entirely by facts and research. Two, theory, is from abstract thinking and is used in day to day conversation outside of science and is used frequently in subjects such as philosophy or theology.

There's a difference, now learn it. A part of reading and conversational comprehension is understanding the use(s) of words in their current form.

Now why don't you go have a nice adult conversation instead of nitpicking over definition.