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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: You must be a genius.

I wouldn't call myself a genius, but I won't object to you doing it.

(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: You seem to know things other brilliant minds have not yet discovered.

Nope - everything I've said are things others brilliant minds have discovered.


(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: Too bad you can't defend your assertions.

Can and have.

(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: The link you gave does nothing to disprove my theory, nor does anything you have said.

Your "theory"? Your "theory"? Don't make me laugh. What you have isn't even a hypothesis - its a baseless assertion and if you'd actually read and understood the article, it would be evident how ridiculous that assertion is.

(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: How about coming up with some observable evidence that the universe is chaotic?

Study up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: If it was chaotic, it would not obey physical laws. If it was chaotic, it would not have lasted for 14.5 billion years. If it was chaotic, evolution would not occur as it does.

Wrong on all counts. Educate yourself before making such stupid comments.


(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: You say it is chaotic and then you say it is not random, which is it?

Both. Chaos does not imply randomness.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 9, 2014 at 7:35 am)genkaus Wrote:
(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: You say it is chaotic and then you say it is not random, which is it?

Both. Chaos does not imply randomness.

Further, randomness does not imply chaos.

Radioactive decay is random at the atomic level, but it is not chaotic at the macro scale - it is utterly predictable.


And, Restan, you don't understand scientific thinking so your comments are generally laughable.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: You must be a genius. You seem to know things other brilliant minds have not yet discovered. Too bad you can't defend your assertions. The link you gave does nothing to disprove my theory, nor does anything you have said. How about coming up with some observable evidence that the universe is chaotic? If it was chaotic, it would not obey physical laws. If it was chaotic, it would not have lasted for 14.5 billion years. If it was chaotic, evolution would not occur as it does.
You say it is chaotic and then you say it is not random, which is it?

Please provide reference that "Chaos" or " Chaotic theory" lacks laws of physics, and if you can do so, I bo down and embrace Christianity and acknowledge Jesus to be God.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 8, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Restan Wrote: How about coming up with some observable evidence that the universe is chaotic? If it was chaotic, it would not obey physical laws. If it was chaotic, it would not have lasted for 14.5 billion years. If it was chaotic, evolution would not occur as it does.


How do you know any of that, please? Dodgy
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
hmm... chaos theory.... did you know that some computer codes use a chaotic system to generate pseudo-random numbers?
A small perturbation of the seed condition, results in a large change on the outcome.
But the exact same seed results in the same outcome, always!

Turbulent systems, on the other hand.... are truly crazy!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Right after the Big Bang, the universe had a monstrous growth-spurt called inflation. The whole thing was over in less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, i know the mind can not grasp that speed. No scientist can comprehend just how quick that is.

That is exactly how you would expect the universe to react if :-

(Genesis 1:3) God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

There are a lot of unbelievable stories in the bible, but the universe is full of mystery and unbelievable stories and unproven "theories" too.

I honestly used to be a strict atheist and thought religion was absolute ludacris and people were just brainwashed. I have actually come to realise that God is the only thing that makes sense.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
You can't possibly be serious.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Believer Wrote: Right after the Big Bang, the universe had a monstrous growth-spurt called inflation. The whole thing was over in less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, i know the mind can not grasp that speed. No scientist can comprehend just how quick that is.
Actually, scientist can comprehend it. They made the models to represent how it might of played out.

(October 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Believer Wrote: That is exactly how you would expect the universe to react if :-

(Genesis 1:3) God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Non-sequitur. How does "Let there be light" translate to the universe is going to expand faster than the speed of light in a fraction of a second?

(October 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Believer Wrote: There are a lot of unbelievable stories in the bible, but the universe is full of mystery and unbelievable stories and unproven "theories" too.
Filled with unproven hypothesis, and disproven hypothesis.

(October 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Believer Wrote: I honestly used to be a strict atheist and thought religion was absolute ludacris and people were just brainwashed. I have actually come to realise that God is the only thing that makes sense.
And your full of shit.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Call me a cynic, but someone with the username "Believer" making a beeline for a week-dead thread just to toss down an "I used to be an atheist, but then..." post filled with sub-kindergarten-level theology doesn't pass the sniff test for me. I wouldn't be shocked if he's an atheist trying to make theists look bad, that's how shitty that post is.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Believer Wrote: Right after the Big Bang, the universe had a monstrous growth-spurt called inflation. The whole thing was over in less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, i know the mind can not grasp that speed. No scientist can comprehend just how quick that is.

That is exactly how you would expect the universe to react if :-

(Genesis 1:3) God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

There are a lot of unbelievable stories in the bible, but the universe is full of mystery and unbelievable stories and unproven "theories" too.

I honestly used to be a strict atheist and thought religion was absolute ludacris and people were just brainwashed. I have actually come to realise that God is the only thing that makes sense.

Hate to tell you, but:

1. There was no light at the time of inflation. There wouldn't be for another 300,000 years before it becomes possible for light to exist.

2. Scientists do comprehend it better than theists can comprehend anything at all. You see, they comprehend it well enough to specifically predict what it had done before looking. Where did your idiotic bible predict accurately and specificalky what it should have already known, much less what it did not yet know?
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