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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 21, 2013 at 3:25 pm
(December 20, 2013 at 12:00 am)Esquilax Wrote: The stubborn lack of evidence for a creation just won't go away, and so consequently snowtracks is frantically resorting to making the same assertion over and over again, that he thinks can somehow be slipped under the radar as a replacement for evidence- an 'f' for effort though, you arrogant little shit.
That's pretty much how this thread began, I suppose it's just par for the course.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 21, 2013 at 8:45 pm
(December 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Why did this thread that started out with the 'god-of-the-gaps' argument go on for 66 pages?
I want to get involved, but I don't want to read all that. Anyone got a cliff notes version of it for me?
theism has no God of the gap problem. the U. is here, and has a designer. some can't accept it because they're in the dead zone asking the child's question: well, who made God? (easily answered, because God is self-evident). richard dawkins in his 'God delusion' book states the U. is improbable, making the God hypothesis even more improbable. he acknowledges the U. is here to his credit, and we are here; therefore, there must be other universes and ours happens to be one that has the right combination of things in place (anthropic principle). so his answer is an explanation that appeals to the multiverse which is crammed with trillions of universes spinning and twisting to hit on the right combination. so what do you have to explain the U.? now is your chance to set the record straight. ready, set, go.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 21, 2013 at 8:48 pm
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(December 21, 2013 at 8:45 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (December 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Why did this thread that started out with the 'god-of-the-gaps' argument go on for 66 pages?
I want to get involved, but I don't want to read all that. Anyone got a cliff notes version of it for me?
theism has no God of the gap problem. the U. is here, and has a designer. some can't accept it because they're in the dead zone asking the child's question: well, who made God? (easily answered, because God is self-evident). richard dawkins in his 'God delusion' book states the U. is improbable, making the God hypothesis even more improbable. he acknowledges the U. is here to his credit, and we are here; therefore, there must be other universes and ours happens to be one that has the right combination of things in place (anthropic principle). so his answer is an explanation that appeals to the multiverse which is crammed with trillions of universes spinning and twisting to hit on the right combination. so what do you have to explain the U.? now is your chance to set the record straight. ready, set, go.
So you're not going to answer my question of who you claim to have wounded with the truth. I'm shocked.
Actually, the child's question that I'd ask is, why do you tell so many lies?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 21, 2013 at 9:18 pm
(December 21, 2013 at 8:48 pm)rasetsu Wrote: (December 21, 2013 at 8:45 pm)snowtracks Wrote: theism has no God of the gap problem. the U. is here, and has a designer. some can't accept it because they're in the dead zone asking the child's question: well, who made God? (easily answered, because God is self-evident). richard dawkins in his 'God delusion' book states the U. is improbable, making the God hypothesis even more improbable. he acknowledges the U. is here to his credit, and we are here; therefore, there must be other universes and ours happens to be one that has the right combination of things in place (anthropic principle). so his answer is an explanation that appeals to the multiverse which is crammed with trillions of universes spinning and twisting to hit on the right combination. so what do you have to explain the U.? now is your chance to set the record straight. ready, set, go.
So you're not going to answer my question of who you claim to have wounded with the truth. I'm shocked.
Actually, the child's question that I'd ask is, why do you tell so many lies?
as if you didn't know it's a strawman. nice try to avoid an explanation, but i'm sure the others will advance an explanation. just you watch and learn.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 21, 2013 at 10:38 pm
(December 21, 2013 at 3:25 pm)Tonus Wrote: (December 20, 2013 at 12:00 am)Esquilax Wrote: The stubborn lack of evidence for a creation just won't go away, and so consequently snowtracks is frantically resorting to making the same assertion over and over again, that he thinks can somehow be slipped under the radar as a replacement for evidence- an 'f' for effort though, you arrogant little shit.
That's pretty much how this thread began, I suppose it's just par for the course.
That is a long standing tradition in christian apologetics
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 21, 2013 at 11:00 pm
(December 21, 2013 at 10:38 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (December 21, 2013 at 3:25 pm)Tonus Wrote: That's pretty much how this thread began, I suppose it's just par for the course.
That is a long standing tradition in christian apologetics
you let me down, i told that other one to watch and learn.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 21, 2013 at 11:24 pm
(December 21, 2013 at 8:45 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (December 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Why did this thread that started out with the 'god-of-the-gaps' argument go on for 66 pages?
I want to get involved, but I don't want to read all that. Anyone got a cliff notes version of it for me?
theism has no God of the gap problem. the U. is here, and has a designer. some can't accept it because they're in the dead zone asking the child's question: well, who made God? (easily answered, because God is self-evident). richard dawkins in his 'God delusion' book states the U. is improbable, making the God hypothesis even more improbable. he acknowledges the U. is here to his credit, and we are here; therefore, there must be other universes and ours happens to be one that has the right combination of things in place (anthropic principle). so his answer is an explanation that appeals to the multiverse which is crammed with trillions of universes spinning and twisting to hit on the right combination. so what do you have to explain the U.? now is your chance to set the record straight. ready, set, go.
God is not self evident, try again.
Ands you have yet to present any evidence that the universe has a designer.
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December 21, 2013 at 11:45 pm
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no explanations? anything? that hindu is going to accuse me of lying so much. can't come-up with something like a bubbling pulsating blackhole quantum galactic mass.
when moses was to deliver a mssg, he asked God who should i say this it's from: God said, tell them it from "I am who I am".
that all you need know, the rest is pretense.
come on. you're waiting until that composer guy make the announcement "we don't have to", aren't you? then you can 'kudos' it.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 22, 2013 at 12:54 am
the atheists believe in nothing because they have nothing.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 22, 2013 at 1:10 am
(December 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Anyone got a cliff notes version of it for me?
In a word: Derp.
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