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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
#91
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 12, 2013 at 12:35 pm)snowtracks Wrote: shows that the causal agent has access to at least one other time dim that doesn't intersect the cosmic timeline. we already know that multiple spatial dim exist. and according to string theory 6 space dim exist we haven't access to.

That's one hell of an assumption you have to make on top of an already very flimsy hypothesis, especially considering that extra spatial dimensions does not necessarily lead to the possibility that extra temporal dimensions can exist.

But then how do you explain how that dimension came into existence?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#92
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Extra temporal dimensions do not address whether this temporal dimension really begins at Big Bang, or that it in fact extends backwards beyond the Big Bang with a stretch of either finite or infinite length we can't yet probe.

It also does not clarify what time would mean if there existed condition where events can not even in principle be placed in sequence to define progress of time, or cause and effect in the classical sense.

At this stage extra time dimension appears to be a mathematic contrivance looking for a use.
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#93
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 12, 2013 at 1:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: If you do not like what I have to say then quit reading my post, then you want be a frustrated dimwit.

Smile GC

As expected, instead of explaining your idiotic posts, you make a pathetic attempt of going into the offensive.

Well, you ass, the way in which you spew your pathetic and brainless talkingpoints all across this forum makes it almoust impossible to ignore them. Which I actualy did until recently. Currently I am reading through them and trying to make out a case against you for breaking the forum rules against preaching.
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#94
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 12, 2013 at 2:30 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Currently I am reading through them and trying to make out a case against you for breaking the forum rules against preaching.
Just curious, Germans- why do you care so much? Having to search to make a case seems like a waste of time, and that's clearly what GC wants- to get under your skin. Don't give him the satisfaction.

It's just amazing that people can view the world so differently, but remember that if you believe in free thought and free speech, GC is only exercising his thoughts and speech freely. It may be that he's doing it intentionally annoyingly, but who cares?
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#95
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 12, 2013 at 2:39 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Just curious, Germans- why do you care so much? Having to search to make a case seems like a waste of time, and that's clearly what GC wants- to get under your skin. Don't give him the satisfaction.

It's just amazing that people can view the world so differently, but remember that if you believe in free thought and free speech, GC is only exercising his thoughts and speech freely. It may be that he's doing it intentionally annoyingly, but who cares?

That may be so. But I cant get Skype working, my Steam account wont start up and I need something to do on a Saturday night besides jerking off.

Other than that, just take some 5-10 minutes and read through his posts.
No arguments or anything. He repeats the same talking points like a preacher over and over and over and over again. And when someone confronts him with a counter, he does nothing else but call that person delusional or an idiot and then returns to preaching the same talkingpoints over and over and over and over and over again. In a discussion, you dont repeat the same nonsence over and over again.

and: http://atheistforums.org/rules.php

Quote:No Preaching
Preaching is not permitted. Preaching is defined as a post that fulfills all the following requirements:

Includes a threat if a particular statement is not agreed with.
Fails to justify said threat with evidence.
Is repetitive.
Directed at forum members, rather than a general description of beliefs.
Uses negative connotations.
Is not in response to a query regarding personal beliefs.

This does not mean that I am going to report him. I am merely reminding him that his tactics of repeatedly annoying people by repeating the same talkingpoints over and over and over and over again, could get him banned, if someone would have aat some point had enought of his nonsence and would report him.
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#96
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
As you wish, but I think he revels in the attention you're paying him.
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#97
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 12, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Zazzy Wrote: As you wish, but I think he revels in the attention you're paying him.

Everyone revels in attention. He revels in negative attention and in serving the purpose of his fanatesism by constantly annoying people.
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#98
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
"A casual stroll through hell proves that faith is everything...GOD"


Quite an amzing sring of falsehoods in that sig.
It is jut amazing that puny human nobodies, think they can speak for a (presumed) creator of 600 sextillion stars.

There was no "hell" in the Babble, so I'm not sure where they THINK they got that notion.

The entire fallacious notion of "proving faith" is a testament to the utter ignorance of the meanings of both those words. (It actually devalues their own cult's statements concerning the nature of the second word.)
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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#99
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
regarding OP:

So if the Big Bang didn't happen than the only alternative is a god named Yahweh, 6 days all out of order, a talking snake, a trap in a garden and a gullible rib woman???

Yeah, your explanation is so much easier to swallow.




Fucking moron.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 12, 2013 at 1:49 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(October 12, 2013 at 12:35 pm)snowtracks Wrote: shows that the causal agent has access to at least one other time dim that doesn't intersect the cosmic timeline. we already know that multiple spatial dim exist. and according to string theory 6 space dim exist we haven't access to.

That's one hell of an assumption you have to make on top of an already very flimsy hypothesis, especially considering that extra spatial dimensions does not necessarily lead to the possibility that extra temporal dimensions can exist.

But then how do you explain how that dimension came into existence?

that speculation is beyond human discovery. biblically we do know that God is not ushered along with the one-directional cause and effect defined cosmic timeline since He can compress or accelerated the time velocity of it, and can initiate a cause on it that's in the past. so by logical necessity He has access to at least one other time dim, and possibly access to a plane of time that would connote access to multiple time dim's.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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