Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[Tonus]

Oh yes you can!

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[Whateverist]

inflationary multiverse models still require a beginning.

How can you possibly think you know that? As Ken Hamm enjoyed asking Mr Science, were you there? Didn't think so.

[Mister Agenda]

[Wyrd of Gawd]

It's done by magic.

No matter how the universe came to be the question remains, "how did the stuff that makes up the universe come to be?"

The structures in the universe, such as galaxies, are just the result of physical forces. You can see similar organized structures created by natural forces on a daily walk, when the swirling wind creates distinct piles of leaves in certain patterns.

[Bucky Ball]

[Dystopia]

Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

The current “theory” is that the universe came into being from some explosion called the Big Bang. The standard Big Bang theory does not match smoothness of the cosmic background radiation. So the theory of Inflation was added to the standard Big Bang. That is the latest conjecture of modern science.

Now there are many problems with this “answer” to the origin of the universe. If nothing existed before the Big Bang, then the Big Bang violates a number of principle and laws of science. It violates conservation of mass-energy. The energy went from nothing to all the energy of the universe. It violates cause and effect. Nothing never just explodes and becomes something. It violates all observations, since nothing never just explodes into something. It also does not explain the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.

If something existed before the Big Bang, then the origin question is not answered at all. If the universe always existed, then the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that all order disappeared an infinite time ago. But that is not the case. Also there is still no explanation of the origin of the laws of nature or why there is even order in the universe.

Does your religion have the answer?

[Jenny A]

[Bucky Ball]

inflationary multiverse models still require a beginning.

There are a couple of mind boggling possibilities: (1) matter and energy have always existed; or (2) matter and energy suddenly sprung into existence. Both possibilities are hard to grasp if you really think about them.

But solving the problem by saying god did it just adds another mind boggling couple of possibilities: (1) god always existed; or (2) god suddenly sprung into existence. This problem is even more difficult than the one it intends to answer, because god as a fully formed creator must be much more complex that simple matter and energy.

Nor does answering any question with god did it, give us any useful information about how the universe or multi-verse works. Thus saddling us with unlikely complication to no purpose. Occams Razors suggests that we therefore leave god out of the equation.

Agree, but both are temporal concepts. Human brains are unable to think in terms without (space)time. What that is or might be is the same as flatlanders trying imagine 3 dimensions.
I'm not always a fan of "the razor". Some thing are very complex, They are as complex as they are. But if the "model" has no need for a god, and there is no evidence for one, then I agree, why introduce it.

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