Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[Whateverist]

Where did the universe come from?

Let's see, would it be A) one of god's orifices; or B) the necessary preconditions?

Gotta go with B.

[Surgenator]

Where did the universe come from?

Let's see, would it be A) one of god's orifices; or B) the necessary preconditions?

Gotta go with B.

or C) Statistical inevitability

[Wyrd of Gawd]

You do realize that most of the universe is simply an optical illusion (or mirage) and that it's therefore not real.

[Surgenator]

You do realize that most of the universe is simply an optical illusion (or mirage) and that it's therefore not real.

That explains why I can jump out of a window and fly when making the 'vroom' sound. Because the universe (and its laws) are not real.

[Diablo]

It may have been a big bounce, not a big bang. Maybe it's always been there, just bouncing along.

[Anomalocaris]

It may have been a big bounce, not a big bang. Maybe it's always been there, just bouncing along.

The Bouncing along forever theory, without any need to postulate some major gap in our understanding of physics, doesn't seem to me to square with second law of thermal dynamics.

Either our current understanding of physics is sufficiently comprehensive, in which case our universe can only be a one time thing (there can be infinite number of other universes) , or somehow Big Bounce represents some break in know laws of physics that permit entropy of the universe to be reset.

[Diablo]

It may have been a big bounce, not a big bang. Maybe it's always been there, just bouncing along.

Bouncing along forever theory doesn't seem to me to square with second law of thermal dynamics.

I suppose the big crunch followed by the big bounce resets everything.

Wtf do I know? I'm just repeating something some morons in Sciam said.

[Anomalocaris]

- Inflation occurred before the Big Bang. It is considered as pre-Bang activity.

Not the inflation normally involved in cosmology to address the smoothness and isotropy problem. That is definitely post Big Bang. It addresses how evidence of quantum fluctuations that must have afflicted the universe shortly after the Big Bang, when the currently visible portions of the universe was still quantum sized, appears to have later been eased, and the appearance of the visible part of the universe was subsequently rendered smooth and isotropic on the largest scale now visible to us.

[Diablo]

- Inflation occurred before the Big Bang. It is considered as pre-Bang activity.

Not the inflation normally involved in cosmology to address the smoothness and isotropy problem. That is definitely post Big Bang. It addresses how evidence of quantum fluctuations that must have afflicted the universe shortly after the Big Bang, when the currently visible portions of the universe was still quantum sized, appears to have later been eased, and the appearance of the visible part of the universe was subsequently rendered smooth and isotropic on the largest scale now visible to us.

Exactly so.

[pocaracas]

It may have been a big bounce, not a big bang. Maybe it's always been there, just bouncing along.

The Bouncing along forever theory, without any need to postulate some major gap in our understanding of physics, doesn't seem to me to square with second law of thermal dynamics.

Either our current understanding of physics is sufficiently comprehensive, in which case our universe can only be a one time thing (there can be infinite number of other universes) , or somehow Big Bounce represents some break in know laws of physics that permit entropy of the universe to be reset.

Thermodynamics was never my favorite subject so... take this with a grain of salt... or two... or a whole jar!

I'd guess that the expansion and inflation of space-time would be independent from the overall thermodynamic state of the matter contain within the space-time. A big-crunch would "simply" be a contraction of space-time, aided by the gravity caused by matter, somehow...