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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(August 26, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Please enlighten us to the differences.


One can be substantiated. The other can muddle its way to god.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(August 26, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Please enlighten us to the differences.

action is a force. for instance a chair is exerting the same force as the floor against the chair (reaction). what causes the force is gravity.

(August 26, 2014 at 11:32 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(August 26, 2014 at 11:19 pm)snowtracks Wrote: you are descripting action|reaction; cause|effect is a different principle.

So basically you're just defining your bullshit into viability? Why should we care what you think about this stuff? Dodgy
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Actually, Action is not a force. Action is an imprecise concept that could broadly mean something like momentum, or energy. Gravity does not cause a force, gravity is a force.

Learn some elementary physics.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
He's too busy posturing over imagined victories to do that. Rolleyes
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(August 27, 2014 at 3:28 am)Chuck Wrote: Actually, Action is not a force. Action is an imprecise concept that could broadly mean something like momentum, or energy. Gravity does not cause a force, gravity is a force.

Learn some elementary physics.
sentence should read - 'what causes the action is gravity'. but you needn't be all righteous about it.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Chuck's conclusion remains valid, though.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(August 27, 2014 at 2:11 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(August 26, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Please enlighten us to the differences.

action is a force. for instance a chair is exerting the same force as the floor against the chair (reaction). what causes the force is gravity.

So what is gravity if it is not a force, but something that exerts a force?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
hmm.... physics nitpicking.

The thing that exerts the force is the mass of an object bending spacetime and causing objects with mass to fall towards each other. The Force that we call gravity is simply the mass of the object times the acceleration that the objects of mass move towards each other.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
And none of it would work without the Higgs particle - please don't call it the God particle, especially on this forum.....
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(August 27, 2014 at 2:11 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(August 26, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Please enlighten us to the differences.

action is a force. for instance a chair is exerting the same force as the floor against the chair (reaction). what causes the force is gravity.

ROFLOL

Oh my god, that is just so wrong.
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