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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 11, 2014 at 11:33 am
Or, put another way, if creating a universe is something a god does to while away eternity the way sailors once built ships in a bottle ..
.. it isn't very likely that it took special care with the rock we're on. And life may have no more been intended than rust. It may just be what shit does. No, if gods make universes they are not minutely concerned with the creatures inhabiting every rock and speck. Certainly creating magic places of reward and punishment that continue beyond the physical universe is something only an OCD god would do.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 11, 2014 at 11:33 am
Atheistic science will beat your ass if you try to go up against it. Try to show gravity won't kill you by jumping off a cliff. Try to show that your God will protect you from burning hot lava.
Why did he make us so damn feeble? So we get to the real bit faster? Why bother with this bit. That's the real joke.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 11, 2014 at 8:52 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 11:33 am)robvalue Wrote: Atheistic science will beat your ass if you try to go up against it. Try to show gravity won't kill you by jumping off a cliff. Try to show that your God will protect you from burning hot lava.
Why did he make us so damn feeble? So we get to the real bit faster? Why bother with this bit. That's the real joke.
atheistic science says the best explanation is: a randomized generator.
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it would seems that nothing would exist - 'nothing' here is - A lack of matter, energy, dimensions, laws of physics, information. But that's not the case. L. Krauss' "nothing" for instance really is something.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 12, 2014 at 4:46 am
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What on earth are you talking about snow?
Are you claiming you have access to another test subject universe that existed without any divine influence and displayed the properties you describe? Or are you just making unsupported assertions? Science doesn't have all the answers therefore God? That doesn't work.
Yes, I worship atheistic science and I have faith in it. It is my life, and I bow down to it every night to beg for more randomness. You can't prove I dont.
"Atheistic" science = science = living in the real world
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 12, 2014 at 8:45 pm
(December 11, 2014 at 8:52 pm)snowtracks Wrote: atheistic science says the best explanation is: a randomized generator.
I do not know what "atheistic science" is, but I do know the universe cannot be created or exist from a "randomized generator". Random would distribute all particles and waves equally without form or pattern. Obviously, it is not so.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
December 12, 2014 at 9:27 pm
I thought a randomized generator is where he was getting his arguments from.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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