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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
May 28, 2015 at 8:11 am
Don't tell me the xtian god isn't alleged to have omni powers of description.
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May 28, 2015 at 10:13 am (This post was last modified: May 28, 2015 at 10:14 am by robvalue.)
He's so bad at describing you have to have trained professionals rewrite it completely for you before it makes any fucking sense.

Sorry, "interpret". Interpret it for you.

He couldn't describe his way out of a wet paper bag filled with easily describable graffiti all over its inside.
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May 28, 2015 at 11:38 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 5:57 am)Tonus Wrote: God must be pretty limited, if the best he could do as a description of the initial expansion of the universe was "stretched the heavens like a tent."

Although it sure sounds like the writer was describing how the sky was really a dome stretched over a flat disc, indicating some very wrong beliefs about how big his universe was, and how it was constructed.
The Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) completed it's full analysis, 12/20/2012. Determined the universe's shape is flat ("nailed down the curvature of space to within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.") which would be 'disk' shaped.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
May 28, 2015 at 11:51 pm
You really need to put down that bible and study some real science.  By flat, they do not mean like a pancake, but rather space-time is not curving back on itself.  It has nothing to do with the shape of the universe.  Also, all we can 'see' is what EM radiation has reached us up to this time.  We will probably never know how large the universe is and it may very well be infinite in size.
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May 29, 2015 at 1:03 am
(May 28, 2015 at 11:51 pm)IATIA Wrote: You really need to put down that bible and study some real science.  By flat, they do not mean like a pancake, but rather space-time is not curving back on itself.  It has nothing to do with the shape of the universe.  Also, all we can 'see' is what EM radiation has reached us up to this time.  We will probably never know how large the universe is and it may very well be infinite in size.
Nice try but doesn't fly. Geometry of the universe is within 3 decimal + or - flat.
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/...metry.html
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May 29, 2015 at 3:48 am
(May 28, 2015 at 2:19 am)robvalue Wrote: OK. If it's not a prophecy, why did you bring it up?

You replied to me defining what a prophecy is, by giving an example of something that isn't a prophecy?

Just going to ignore this question snowy? Smile
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May 29, 2015 at 5:18 am
(May 28, 2015 at 11:38 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(May 28, 2015 at 5:57 am)Tonus Wrote: God must be pretty limited, if the best he could do as a description of the initial expansion of the universe was "stretched the heavens like a tent."

Although it sure sounds like the writer was describing how the sky was really a dome stretched over a flat disc, indicating some very wrong beliefs about how big his universe was, and how it was constructed.
The Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) completed it's full analysis, 12/20/2012. Determined the universe's shape is flat ("nailed down the curvature of space to within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.") which would be 'disk' shaped.
The Biblical writer is referring to the Earth as a flat disc, not the universe.  My point being that as far as that writer was concerned, the Earth was the universe.  Your hilarious mis-interpretation regarding the geometry of the universe doesn't even have to be considered, thankfully.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
May 29, 2015 at 7:19 am
This shit still going on?

Bloody hell.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
May 29, 2015 at 12:05 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 11:38 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(May 28, 2015 at 5:57 am)Tonus Wrote: God must be pretty limited, if the best he could do as a description of the initial expansion of the universe was "stretched the heavens like a tent."

Although it sure sounds like the writer was describing how the sky was really a dome stretched over a flat disc, indicating some very wrong beliefs about how big his universe was, and how it was constructed.
The Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) completed it's full analysis, 12/20/2012. Determined the universe's shape is flat ("nailed down the curvature of space to within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.") which would be 'disk' shaped.

Do you even understand what the phrase "curvature of space" means.

Quote:Anisotropy is the property of being directionally dependent, as opposed to isotropy, which implies identical properties in all directions.
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The universe has been determined to be predominately isotropic (the opposite of being anisotropic). This is 'flat' in a special sense, not like a disk.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
May 29, 2015 at 12:24 pm (This post was last modified: May 29, 2015 at 12:24 pm by Alex K.)
Lol, geometric flatness doesn't mean that it is disk shaped. If you want I can explain it to you.
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