What is the point of morality if you're a theist?

[DLJ]

Kinda.

But there is a reward in saving the child.
The same reward you get for returning a lost wallet or for picking up some litter or anything that gives you that warm fuzzy feeling of being a member of a social group.

A chemical pat on the brain for not being a socio/psychopath.

Chemical brain pats are fantastic.

The best kind

[freedomfromforum]

It's all chemicals and structure.

[Sword of Christ]

Once you receive Gods grace you feel motivated to do so through Gods love for you.

[Forsaken]

Once you receive Gods grace you feel motivated to do so through Gods love for you.

Doesn't that make your god kind of an asshole? Only a select few receive his grace?

[Esquilax]

Once you receive Gods grace you feel motivated to do so through Gods love for you.

That's not an answer to my question, though.

I asked why god determined what was right and what was wrong. Whether he had any actual reason for doing so, something that serves a purpose here, or whether he was, as my earlier example showed, like the god Nuggan, making onions into a sin because he doesn't like them.

Answer that question, why don't you?

[pineapplebunnybounce]

Once you receive Gods grace you feel motivated to do so through Gods love for you.

Theists usually say something along these lines. It just means they feel guilty that being sinners they're loved by god so they need to be good because god wants them to be good.

So good is whatever god wants. If god loves you but wants you to do bad stuff, you do it because he loves you.

I think they're good because they want to convert others. And nontheists are usually moved by how "nice" religious people are when they go to church and stuff.

[Sword of Christ]

Doesn't that make your god kind of an asshole? Only a select few receive his grace?

Anyone who wants to receive it will receive it even Adolf Hitler.

I asked why god determined what was right and what was wrong.

If something is from God then it is good if something is against God it is human sin.

Whether he had any actual reason for doing so, something that serves a purpose here, or whether he was, as my earlier example showed, like the god Nuggan, making onions into a sin because he doesn't like them.

It's just the nature of what the reality of God is and reality of human freedom of will. There is good and there is evil, right and wrong. We don't invent it we understand it.

Theists usually say something along these lines. It just means they feel guilty that being sinners they're loved by god so they need to be good because god wants them to be good.

That's the idea, though it even works for people who don't believe in God.

So good is whatever god wants. If god loves you but wants you to do bad stuff, you do it because he loves you.

If something is "bad" then it is always against God wishes as this is how "bad" or sin is defined. This is Gods Moral Law and it applies to everyone equally.

I think they're good because they want to convert others.

Atheists want to convince others that God some kind of harmful myth rather than truth that is good to know.

[CleanShavenJesus]

I think they're good because they want to convert others.

Atheists want to convince others that God some kind of harmful myth rather than truth that is good to know.

Really? I don't remember doing that at any point in my life.

Now, I don't think it's a "truth", but I also don't consider it a "harmful myth".

[Sword of Christ]

Really? I don't remember doing that at any point in my life.

Good to know you're atheists. But you don't see atheists ever try to argue against the existence of God or that religion is purely a man made fabrication of fairy-tales and myths? I think I may have seen that happen before with hilarious results.







Ah yes great stuff there, fun to be had by all.

Now, I don't think it's a "truth", but I also don't consider it a "harmful myth".

Good to hear, you're just being wrong a purely logical level then I don't mind that so much. You see all things that are caused have a cause. No infinite regresses of causes either as it would take an infinite number of causation's to cause anything to happen therefore nothing would ever be caused to happen. Solid philosophical proof of God there.

[CleanShavenJesus]

Good to know you're atheists. But you don't see atheists ever try to argue against the existence of God or that religion is purely a man made fabrication of fairy-tales and myths? I think I may have seen that happen before with hilarious results.







Ah yes great stuff there, fun to be had by all.

I know you're trying to solicit a reaction from me, but to be honest, I think Dawkins is a douchebag.

Now, I don't think it's a "truth", but I also don't consider it a "harmful myth".

Good to hear, you're just being wrong a purely logical level then I don't mind that so much. You see all things that are caused have a cause. No infinite regresses of causes either as it would take an infinite number of causation's to cause anything to happen therefore nothing would ever be caused to happen. Solid philosophical proof of God there.

What caused God? What made him?