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| Poll: Which one is lying? This poll is closed. |
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| god | 6 | 28.57% | |
| satan | 3 | 14.29% | |
| both | 3 | 14.29% | |
| neither | 9 | 42.86% | |
| Total | 21 vote(s) | 100% | |
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Is The Devil A Liar?
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 (October 28, 2013 at 8:31 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:(October 28, 2013 at 8:29 pm)Marvin Wrote: The devil told me he isn't a liar.Look down Marvin. That steel wool you see sprouting there is called "puberty". Thank you for sharing it with me, now go get yerself waxed, it 'll make it look bigger.
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
![[Image: b7wAvWj.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com%2Fb7wAvWj.png)   (October 28, 2013 at 9:35 pm)Zazzy Wrote:(October 28, 2013 at 8:31 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: That steel wool you see sprouting Dunno...if a guy hasn't gotten any action for a while, it seems the perfect antidote for a rusty rod. There's a devil in the babble? Cool! I never got past the Torah portion without punching a kitten in disgust. 
The real question, from the religious perspective, is..Who isn't a liar? According to (at least) 4 major religions, and a few discerning intellects in antiquity (Buddhism, Hinduism and Judeo/Christianity) the world (reality as the common man knows it) is one gigantic flim-flam of global theatrical proportion. Everything is ultimately meaningless, transient, and impermanent. Who, truly, cares about an imaginary devils truth content?
"This time the bullet cold rocked ya a yellow ribbon instead of a swastika?" -RATM
LastPoet
 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione RE: Is The Devil A Liar?
October 29, 2013 at 11:36 am
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2013 at 11:37 am by LastPoet.)
(October 29, 2013 at 10:16 am)Dionysius Wrote: The real question, from the religious perspective, is..Who isn't a liar? According to (at least) 4 major religions, and a few discerning intellects in antiquity (Buddhism, Hinduism and Judeo/Christianity) the world (reality as the common man knows it) is one gigantic flim-flam of global theatrical proportion. Everything is ultimately meaningless, transient, and impermanent. Who, truly, cares about an imaginary devils truth content? In case you haven't noticed, there are quite a few humans that care too much about it, enough to taint their judgement. Take homossexuality for an example: Would being homosexual so much veiled as evil, wicked, an abomination and people felt justified in believing so, if some religious beliefs never existed? (October 29, 2013 at 11:36 am)LastPoet Wrote:(October 29, 2013 at 10:16 am)Dionysius Wrote: The real question, from the religious perspective, is..Who isn't a liar? According to (at least) 4 major religions, and a few discerning intellects in antiquity (Buddhism, Hinduism and Judeo/Christianity) the world (reality as the common man knows it) is one gigantic flim-flam of global theatrical proportion. Everything is ultimately meaningless, transient, and impermanent. Who, truly, cares about an imaginary devils truth content? It seems that the, "quite a few" are, according to the aforementioned religions, unwitting pawns in the universe's biggest shell game. Apparently, some people have to be deceived to make the illusion (of life) work, so to speak.
"This time the bullet cold rocked ya a yellow ribbon instead of a swastika?" -RATM
Taking the bible as literature, starting in Genesis the devil (assuming the serpent is the devil in disguise, which is debatable because God curses the snake and takes away its legs, but for some reason sees fit to make some of them deadly poisonous) tells Eve that she won't die if she eats the fruit, whereas God told Adam & Eve that they would die "on the day." So Christian apologists had to come up with the explanation that either it was talking about spiritual death, or else there was no death on earth before A&E ate the fruit (which Adam still lived for some 900 years more after that).
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
I voted for God because I am ignoring the issue that neither exist for the sake of the argument.
I have argued before on this forum that maltheism is a far more likely explanation of things than the good god approach. If God is evil then, by definition the devil is good. The strange thing is the Christian tale of the devil and the fallen angels. About a third of the angels chose to leave with Satan. Now if God is the all perfect one why would a full third of his privileged angels opt to go with Satan? One imagines that Satan and the fallen angels can read - and they know, therefore, from Revelations if not from other sources, that they will ultimately lose out. Rather than suing for peace, however, they are sticking it out. This leaves us with one of the following conclusions: 1. They don't agree with the prophesy and think they will win. 2. They know that they are going to lose but still think that this option is better than being with God. Now we have to assume, according to Christian tradition, that they are so consumed with evil that they reject God - even knowing they will lose out in the end. The thing is - God made them, why did he make a third of them evil? Do angels have free choice like we do? What does it say about God if a third of those with free choice who know for a certainty that God exists STILL rejected him. The argument for a good God gets weaker by the second.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
They are both immoral wankers
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