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Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 2:11 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Yes, in some cases. How long have you been here, that you can divine so clearly the endemic corruption in our system? A week?

Also this is the bad side of job that 1 week is enough to see corruption. According to rules you cant threat users , send a private post if you want to warn him .

(December 14, 2013 at 2:11 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Also, remember what I said about not having to justify myself to you? Yeah, that.

So you admit that you can behave the way you want and noone can ask you about that . Is that your sense of justice ? A kind of monarchy ?

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 2:19 pm)Sleepy Wrote: No animals are homosexual though. Those tendencies may occur occasionally but no one individual animal is homosexual and rejects the opposite sex.

Use your common sense.

Do you have knowledge of what you wrote? NO ANIMALS ARE HOMOSEXUAL. It's what you wrote.

Close to 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, have been observed engaging in such behavior and this is well documented for 500 of them.[3][4]

[3] Bruce Bagemihl, Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity, St. Martin's Press, 1999; ISBN 978-0312253776

[4] Harrold, Max (1999-02-16). "Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity". The Advocate, reprinted in Highbeam Encyclopedia. Retrieved 2007-09-10.


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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 2:27 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Many animals eat their shit and eat and kill their own species as was stated earlier. That doesn't mean human beings need to copy animals. Human beings have intellect and the ability to discern wrong from right. It depends on the choices you make.

No one animal lives a homosexual life, animals exhibit random behavior with instincts and no intellect

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
Looks like you missed it, so here you go. Bolds added for your convenience.



Homosexuality is also quite common among dolphins and killer whales. The pairing of males and females is fleeting, while between males, a pair can stay together for years. Homosexual sex between different species is not unusual either. Meetings between different dolphin species can be quite violent, but the tension is often broken by a "sex orgy".

Homosexuality is a social phenomenon and is most widespread among animals with a complex herd life.

Among the apes it is the females that create the continuity within the group. The social network is maintained not only by sharing food and the child rearing, but also by having sex. Among many of the female apes the sex organs swell up. So they rub their abdomens against each other," explains Petter Bockman and points out that animals have sex because they have the desire to, just like we humans.

Homosexual behaviour has been observed in 1,500 animal species.

"We're talking about everything from mammals to crabs and worms. The actual number is of course much higher. Among some animals homosexual behaviour is rare, some having sex with the same gender only a part of their life, while other animals, such as the dwarf chimpanzee, homosexuality is practiced throughout their lives."


Animals that live a completely homosexual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homosexual. Single females will lay eggs in a homosexual pair's nest. It has been observced that the homosexual couple are often better at raising the young than heterosexual couples.

When you see a colony of black-headed gulls, you can be sure that almost every tenth pair is lesbian. The females have no problems with being impregnated, although, according to Petter Boeckman they cannot be defined as bisexual.

"If a female has sex with a male one time, but thousands of times with another female, is she bisexual or homosexual? This is the same way to have children is not unknown among homosexual people."
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
You obviously don't understand what it means when no animal is a 'homosexual'. No animals sexual orientation is homosexual, they want to mate and spread their genes. The few occasions they engage in other activities does not make them homosexual like some humans claim. It's about the choice you make. We can choose to eat and kill our own species as well. We're not non-thinking instinct only animals.

Think carefully before you comment anything

believing an individual animal lives homosexual lives is lying to yourself. At the end of the day every animal wants a mate of the opposite gender unlike 'homosexuals'
Those who claim to be 'bisexual' are copying random animal behavior.

Logical humans don't eat and kill other humans, nor do they eat their own feces, they also don't partake in unnatural activities either. Illogical people do who need to repent to Aallah or their souls will be doomed
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 2:28 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Also this is the bad side of job that 1 week is enough to see corruption. According to rules you cant threat users , send a private post if you want to warn him .

I was being sarcastic. Also, you might not know this, but I did send Sleepy a private warning the first time; Sleepy decided to make this public on his own volition. I even privately posted his second warning, and yet here we are.

This is a hell of his own devising, and I'm not going to have accusations of impropriety thrown around by a new user who has no idea what is actually going on here. You need to wonder why those same accusations aren't being made by our cadre of other, longtime theist members, if we were being so unfair. You understand we have a muslim on staff, right? He outranks me.

Quote:So you admit that you can behave the way you want and noone can ask you about that . Is that your sense of justice ? A kind of monarchy ?

No, I'm admitting that I don't feel particularly interested in what a stranger I've known for all of a fortnight thinks of me, nor do I find a need to ask your permission before I act.

We have forums in place that publicly announce each and every permanent disciplinary action, so there is transparency here, not to mention multiple mods, some of whom are theists and deists, to pull back on any personal abuse of power. As I've explained multiple times now, any action we take goes to a vote; it's not something I just did on my own.

I'm accountable to the other mods, and more broadly, myself; I actually like being intellectually honest, and I like this forum. I have no interest in seeing it turn into... well, the same kind of thing most religious forums end up as, actually.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
Sleepy Wrote:You obviously don't understand what it means when no animal is a 'homosexual'. No animals sexual orientation is homosexual, they want to mate and spread their genes. The few occasions they engage in other activities does not make them homosexual like some humans claim. It's about the choice you make. We can choose to eat and kill our own species as well. We're not non-thinking instinct only animals.

Think carefully before you comment anything

I'm going to chalk this one up to you just not being able to read English, otherwise I'd have to conclude you're mentally handicapped.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 2:08 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Insults are relative. Unnatural is your behavior and nature

Is it just me, or is this is illogical. Oh well Popcorn
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
If we could pause the flame war for just a sec, I have a question.

Sleepy, you've spoken of homosexuality as an unnatural act. Let's suspend disbelief for a minute and pretend I agree with you. (I don't, but let's pretend)

The position we generally adopt in Christianity (at least in my corner of it,) is that we abhor the sin but not the sinner. In the same way that hating cancer does not mean one hates cancer patients.

You seem to take a different position insofar as you seem to be thinking of someone who does what you think as an unnatural person.

Is this an accident of language or a different approach?
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sleepy Wrote: You obviously don't understand what it means when no animal is a 'homosexual'. No animals sexual orientation is homosexual, they want to mate and spread their genes.

Not based on reality whatsoever. Find me facts, scientific data, anything. You can't.
I, on the other hand, have enough scientific evidence to account for 1500 species who exhibit homosexual behavior in social structures, and LIFELONG HOMOSEXUALS in 4-5% of the populations. Individuals who actually raise offspring, too.


Sleepy Wrote:The few occasions they engage in other activities does not make them homosexual like some humans claim.

I think you can't read at this point.

Sleepy Wrote:It's about the choice you make. We can choose to eat and kill our own species as well. We're not non-thinking instinct only animals.

It is done. Regularly and often.

Sleepy Wrote:Think carefully before you comment anything

Look up facts not made up by your head, before you comment anything you carpetbagger.

Sleepy Wrote:believing an individual animal lives homosexual lives is lying to yourself. At the end of the day every animal wants a mate of the opposite gender unlike 'homosexuals'

Again, find proof for this. Scientific proof. Facts.
You can't.
I, on the other hand, can find conclusive proof from thousands of professional scientists who say you're an idiot.


Sleepy Wrote:Those who claim to be 'bisexual' are copying random animal behavior.

Yet another tidbit your mind made up then, Sleepy?
REALITY is not what you WANT it to be. It's what it fucking is.


Sleepy Wrote:Logical humans don't eat and kill other humans, nor do they eat their own feces, they also don't partake in unnatural activities either.

A google search of cannibalism and 2 girls one cup says otherwise.
Sexual gratification is logical, albeit disgusting.
The list of cannibalism reasons is too numerous--ranging from percieved medical reasonings, to religious, to entertainment--that I didn't really think you were that ignorant. I was wrong.


Sleepy Wrote:Illogical people do who need to repent to Aallah or their souls will be doomed

Ignorance is Bliss, eh?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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