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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:17 pm
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(November 18, 2013 at 12:25 am)Beccs Wrote: What, explain that the tornado missed some houses?
Likely the people who died prayed, too.
Moving on.
"Likely"?
(November 18, 2013 at 12:27 am)Minimalist Wrote: I bet you think that all those other houses were home to godless heathens who weren't wasting their fucking time praying to your non-existent god, eh Ronny?
Did you have to take lessons to become a first class dickhead like this or did it come naturally?
Fortunately, you weren't in one of those houses. I would've said a prayer for you too! Believe it or not.
(November 18, 2013 at 12:55 am)apophenia Wrote:
Can I ask a side question, ronedee? I'm just curious as to whether or not you use a special lubricant on your anal sphincter.
I'm sure you are a kindasewer when it comes to those products.
(November 18, 2013 at 2:34 am)whateverist Wrote: It's almost as though the wind could not advance in the face of those spoken prayers. Amazing.
Nah, just kidding. Big difference between correlation and causation. I don't think those prayers are doing much of anything.
Just food for thought. We need some different persepectives than the usually bon a faire around here.
(November 18, 2013 at 3:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: My house has never been destroyed by bushfires, has never even been burgled, and lately even survived a cloud of chemical smog drifting overhead without a scratch. I prayed to no god during that, and thus by Ronny's logic, god does not exist.
Bam.
By your logic you live on a moutain top, and never go out of the house!
(November 18, 2013 at 4:31 am)max-greece Wrote: Rondee,
Imagine they were muttering verses from the Koran instead of the Lord's prayer. Would you have attributed their safety to that? Would it even have crossed your mind?
I'm guessing not.
uh...show me ONE case like this! I'll be a believer!
(November 18, 2013 at 6:54 am)Ivy Wrote: Thank you, lord, because my friend lost one finger instead of all of them.
Thank you, lord, because my mother has tumors, yet not cancer.
Thank you, lord, because I got mugged, yet not killed.
Thank you, lord, because the wind took some houses, but missed some.
Lord, you are so perfect! You don't ever miss a thing or make mistakes!
Great prayer! Amen!
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm
(November 18, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ronedee Wrote: Just food for thought. We need some different persepectives than the usually bon a faire around here.
That's a poor perspective, IMO. If every natural disaster managed to avoid destroying the homes and temples of people who prayed, then the correlation is such that it would be an undeniable effect and could easily be tested and confirmed (and in doing so, we could not only answer the question about god's existence, but also who he happens to favor). Do you believe that this is the case?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:36 pm
(November 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm)Tonus Wrote: (November 18, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ronedee Wrote: Just food for thought. We need some different persepectives than the usually bon a faire around here.
That's a poor perspective, IMO. If every natural disaster managed to avoid destroying the homes and temples of people who prayed, then the correlation is such that it would be an undeniable effect and could easily be tested and confirmed (and in doing so, we could not only answer the question about god's existence, but also who he happens to favor). Do you believe that this is the case?
Would I expect you to agree with me?
No evidence of God is correct in your mind.
IF indeed God revealed Himself to you...would you drop to your knees and worship Him?
hmmmmm (foot taping, hand on chin) ... I'll guess NO!
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:37 pm
All those replies and yet no rebuttal or substance is to be found in any sentence. To be honest, i've come to expect that.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:39 pm
(November 18, 2013 at 1:36 pm)ronedee Wrote: Would I expect you to agree with me?
No evidence of God is correct in your mind.
IF indeed God revealed Himself to you...would you drop to your knees and worship Him?
hmmmmm (foot taping, hand on chin) ... I'll guess NO!
You went off on a tangent there, I'm not sure if you understood my question. Do you believe that god always answers the prayers of those who seek his protection in the face of natural disasters?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:40 pm
(November 18, 2013 at 1:36 pm)ronedee Wrote: IF indeed God revealed Himself to you...would you drop to your knees and worship Him?
His deserving my worship would depend on whether he was really god, and not just some highly evolved alien masquerading as god, and whether or not he was precisely as evil as the bible portrays him to be.
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
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(November 18, 2013 at 12:10 am)ronedee Wrote: Let the litany of bs flow forth...
That you are both idiotic and annoying is no bullshit. You should definity definitely study those concepts of Ronedee is an idiot and Ronedee is annoying very closely and diffidently so they can inform your world view and profit you by making you slightly less annoying. Trust me, that will save your soul much more surely than even Jesus.
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
My worship would not be earned by God simply revealing himself. He would have to be worthy of it. That would require much more justification than 'he exists'.
If he demanded that I worship him, that would only prove that he isn't worth worshiping.
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Ron
What you see is evidence of god, I see what is actually there, which is a tornado behaving like a tornado.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Ok.... Explain this one?
November 18, 2013 at 2:06 pm
(November 18, 2013 at 2:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Ron
What you see is evidence of god, I see what is actually there, which is a tornado behaving like a tornado.
When ronedee sees evidence of god where she sees evidence of god , I see evidence of a christian more stupid than the average christian.
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