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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:17 pm
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(November 25, 2013 at 6:13 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: I would prefer to live in a society without slavery or same-sex 'marriage'. Why would you rather live In a society without those things?
Is it because you don't want them affecting you personally... No, it's because Christians are bigots.
How would allowing same sex partners to marry affect him personally unless he was gay? Live and let live already.
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:24 pm
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(November 25, 2013 at 6:11 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: I don't understand why it has to be one or the other?
I think that you are just playing dumb...
OH.
So you DON'T want to know what I think.
Fine.
(November 25, 2013 at 6:17 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 6:13 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Why would you rather live In a society without those things?
Is it because you don't want them affecting you personally... No, it's because Christians are bigots.
How would allowing same sex partners to marry affect him personally unless he was gay? Live and let live already.
Hope you and Jacob(smooth) enjoy your conversation.
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:26 pm
They aren't willing to live and let live. If they did that they could not feel all morally superior to everyone who was not just like them.
I don't much care what they want to believe and how they want to live, that is none of my business. My problem is that they are not
willing to extend the rest of us the same courtesy.
Come to think of it, courtesy is not one of their strong suits either. 
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:27 pm
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(November 25, 2013 at 6:17 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 6:13 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Why would you rather live In a society without those things?
Is it because you don't want them affecting you personally... No, it's because Christians are bigots.
How would allowing same sex partners to marry affect him personally unless he was gay? Live and let live already. Little bit of a generalisation there?
(November 25, 2013 at 6:26 pm)Raven Wrote: They aren't willing to live and let live. If they did that they could not feel all morally superior to everyone who was not just like them.
I don't much care what they want to believe and how they want to live, that is none of my business. My problem is that they are not
willing to extend the rest of us the same courtesy.
Come to think of it, courtesy is not one of their strong suits either.
Christians are a bit like bacteria. There are plenty who live in harmony with the system and who even benefit it. However inevitably it's the ones which make you sick which you become aware of.
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Through strength, I gain power.
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm
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(November 25, 2013 at 6:27 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 6:17 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Christians are bigots. Little bit of a generalisation there? God is a bigot and Christians agree with god, so I stand by the accuracy of my statement.
(November 25, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Hope you and Jacob(smooth) enjoy your conversation. This just in...
My god that I agree that anyone who disagrees with me is bound for hell. You in?
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm
(November 25, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 6:11 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: I think that you are just playing dumb...
OH.
So you DON'T want to know what I think.
Fine.
No -- you don't want to know what you think about it.
Are you really unable to see the lengths that you are going to in order to avoid answering the question?
Just answer it -- what are you so afraid of?
Just answer the fucking question -- if you got the guts.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste -- don't pollute it with bullshit.
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:40 pm
(November 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 6:27 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Little bit of a generalisation there? God is a bigot and Christians agree with god, so I stand by the accuracy of my statement.
Ah I do enjoy a bit of philosophical hair splitting.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression you thought God did not exist. In which case how can he be a bigot hmm?
Your statement is not internally consistent.
A generalisation such as you made is only defensible if a group has a reasonable degree of homogeneity, which "christians" palpably don't. One cannot use the existence of a straightforward God and a uniform adherence to his teaching to defend a generalisation without proposing the existence of such a god.
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:43 pm
(November 25, 2013 at 6:40 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression you thought God did not exist. In which case how can he be a bigot hmm?
I don't think Harry Potter or Hermione Granger exist, but their 'shippers makes me cringe. It's the idolization of the beast that worries me (and probably FFF too).
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm
(November 25, 2013 at 6:43 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 6:40 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression you thought God did not exist. In which case how can he be a bigot hmm?
I don't think Harry Potter or Hermione Granger exist, but their 'shippers makes me cringe. It's the idolization of the beast that worries me (and probably FFF too). But Harry Potter fans are a broad group. Hard to make any confident statement about all of the besides that they like Harry Potter. You probably know lots of Harry Potter fans who you don't even know are Harry Potter fans.
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RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 25, 2013 at 7:00 pm
(November 25, 2013 at 6:40 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: God is a bigot and Christians agree with god, so I stand by the accuracy of my statement.
Ah I do enjoy a bit of philosophical hair splitting.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression you thought God did not exist. In which case how can he be a bigot hmm?
Your statement is not internally consistent.
A generalisation such as you made is only defensible if a group has a reasonable degree of homogeneity, which "christians" palpably don't. One cannot use the existence of a straightforward God and a uniform adherence to his teaching to defend a generalisation without proposing the existence of such a god. Lemme fix it for you. I would have been more clear to state "The god Christians believe exists is a bigot, and Christians agree with their concept of god, so I stand by the accuracy of my statement.
If you're attempting to appear knowledgeable, then why are you acting so ignorantly?
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